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Didn't they just close down all their nuclear power plants because they're too dangerous after Fukushima?
Building nuclear bombs doesn't seem like the next logical step.
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First off. Way to make sure everyone “doesn’t look up” re climate emergency. There’s no amount of nukes we can build that are more powerful and can be secured enough against nature’s planned devastation in the next 30 years. But for some reason all this war talk shit is just a welcome distraction.
Second. This is the same like all these governments asking Apple and Signal to build backdoors. Once you have a backdoor, it doesn’t discriminate who passes through it. Build all the nukes you want, all European governments will slide towards trumpism in the next 10 years anyway, as European politics seems to copy USA and is more and more infiltrated by foreign powers (also just like USA). I’m sure all the mini-me Aldofs, Elons and Donalds will appreciate a freshly build slab of nukes to establish their tyranny.
Boy are we stupid. Just smart enough to know we’re a bunch of clothed idiots.
Tldr use a condom
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Too expensive for the little benefit. Turkey for example has none, but one of the bigger armies in the Mediterranean and can still project power.
I'd also recommend to talk to Poland and France about this first, if only for historic reasons.
I can barely imagine the shitty world that makes us need the French nukes in our country, what world would there even be that requires a German one instead? If things are that bad, what good would our own nuke do at that point?
Nukes are only useful if you are at the point where you want to end the world. Germany should focus peace where possible and the equipment needed to end wars in their favor when peace is not an option. They can't deliver Ukraine the tanks, artillery shells, and and so on needed, so adding nukes to their plate is just diverting their interests. If they want to do more airplanes or air defense would be much better to invest in than nukes. (I'm not sure what Germany as in either of those categories)
You are confusing can't and won't, Gemany and a few other countries have ability to produce a lot of weapons and armor, they really don't want to do it and corporations that make weapons also don't want to do it. So they obviously can produce more, but it would cut into profits on one side, and requires minimal effort and political will on the other.
Discussing nukes requires nothing and generates news, win-win.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_sharing
Germany already has nuclear bombs
Doubtful, given Trump's displayed reluctance to honour a defence treaty.
Nuclear sharing is the worst of both worlds. You make yourself a certain target, but you cannot exercise control over the weapons. It's turning MAD into SAD (self assured destruction)
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No 🤦
... or maybe, have some of French // British nuclear weapons in Germany and under its control ? ... to stabilise a "MAD*" equilibrium ?
*MAD
Mutual auto destruction (at Wikipedia)
Germany has a really high chance of having a fascist party in government in four years. So the answer is a fucking resounding NO.