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As investment, I bought this, instead of stocks. Any ideas on what to do with it?

Location:

  • 75km (1hr) to a big international airport. Airport has direct flights to most EU capitals (2-4hr flights)
  • 50km to city center
  • 25km from nearest large residential area (500,000+ population)
  • 5km from massive organized industrial area (government supports factories here)
  • 35km from a rich residential area
  • 1km away from the village (its old and mostly depopulated) and animal husbandry area

Access:

  • There is public transportation, but one has to walk 1.5km after leaving the bus.
  • There is no direct road access to the land. You have to walk like 200m after leaving your car.
  • 1km road to here is non-asphalt and its a bit bumpy ride. When it rains, it gets bad here. It rains rarely

It is quite peaceful and quiet there. You can hear interesting bird sounds sometimes. You see no buildings, no cars and no humans anywhere near you when you're there, which feels great imo. You notice the air quality after you leave your car. I personally absolutely would want to live here for a while

Ideas

  • Trying to clarify this rn, but I think I can make $120-160/yr/decare from leasing the land to a farmer. Land is 25 decares
  • "Unique co-living opportunity with vegan food & yoga sessions" In other words, remote work / digital nomad village for people who want to work REALLY remotely :) I'd have to arrange electricity (solar panels and powerbanks), internet, toilet, shower, water, tents, mattresses/pillows/sheets, food, drinking water. (Though I don't know what people will do when they're bored here? Any ideas? Meditation would get boring after some point)
  • Sadly location isn't touristic, but it is 1hr flight away from extremely touristic areas. One of those areas, a city, was the most visited city in the world a few years ago.
  • I've met a few volunteers and they seemed quite willing to volunteer for whatever I decide to do here (if I do anything). For those unfamiliar: WWOOF and Workaway

Also- Any suggestions on where I should ask this question on the internet?

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[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 2 points 23 minutes ago

First of all, what the fuck, how are people paying 1.2k lease per nectar and are still able to make a profit of it (this is possible if you plant vegetables, but most farmers dont do vegetables).

Secondly, if you are willing to maybe invest a little bit more I would try to market this as a "DIY" garden. Basically what you do is, plant the field with vegetables, divide the field into smaller sections and then people pay you for having the opportunity to raise and and harvest their own vegetables. Harvest everything you can't sell by yourself and sell it to your local supermarket.

Pros:

  • Lots of cash. If you just charge people like 20$/month for e.g. 50m2 (which is quite a lot) that would come down to 1000$ per month assuming that you are able to rent all sections to other people (which will devinetively not happen). Even if you only rent out 50% its still 500$ per month.

  • Not very work intensive. You dont really have to do that much. Just regularly check on the field and care for all parts that are not rented out.

Cons:

  • Further investments are needed. You would have to supply the field with water. The best way would be to buy a cheap forklift and some containers, fill them up with water and drive it there. If you already have a car that can tow trailers you could also use that to supply the field.

  • High instability: You can't really calculate how this will work out, because you can realistically only calculate this for this and maybe the next year. This is also highly dependent on how gods you can reach the field.

The field may be a bit off for this concept, but if you manage to market this to the city population (not necessarily the city population, but more of the urban population that live in denser areas) you can make quite a lot of cash of it. I think with the uprise of uncertaintys about the availability of food and maybe declining supply chains this might get more relevant in the future. For this to work I would suggest to start small. Just seed clover on the rest of the field that you dont plan to use. This has the advantage, that you dont loose soil due to erosion, but you also allow the soil to regenerate and ultimatively clover is able to fixate nitrogen in the soil which is OBE of the most important nutrients for growing anything. If you let the clover grow for 2 years it can fixate iirc up to 200kg/N/acre which is quite a lot, bit this really depends on a lot of different factors.

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 13 minutes ago

Start up a workers cooperative and a collectivized farm, you could also do the digital nomad stuff and make a worker owned digital syndicate. Turn it into a leftist center where theory flows like water and discussion of revolution flows through the air like the songs of the workers >:3

[–] Obelix@feddit.org 9 points 3 hours ago

Research what you are allowed to do with that land. In my country you are not allowed to simply buy agricultural land and start building stuff on it and that is the case in most civilized countries.

[–] Liz@midwest.social 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I wish I had enough money to buy 25 acres without a clear idea of what to do with it.

[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 1 points 22 minutes ago

This isn't 25 acres. Its 25 decacres which is about 6 acres or 2.5ha or 25.000m2

[–] unphazed@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago

Ah. Someone found my field of fucks. See that I had none left to give.

[–] Aiala@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

Plant a lot of trees. Be the owner of a forest. Just be proud.

[–] Lootboblin@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago
[–] Xaphanos@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Dark-sky site?

[–] TvanBuuren@lemmy.world 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Plant a shtload of trees and bushes, let it go 'wild', put cottages in between, spaced so they don't see each other.

A 'back to nature' retreat around the corner.

[–] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 hours ago

It can actually be a lot of work to do this. Researching species appropriate to the biome and removing invasive ones

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Sit around and be a land lord. The farmer slaves can just plant and harvest stuff for you oh lord of the dirt field!

[–] Polderviking@feddit.nl 2 points 3 hours ago

Farm things?

[–] Vytle@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Build a whole theme park

place a monument to something there, and other stuff.

[–] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 0 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Fence it, let it regrow and let lose a shit ton of chickens. Market free range eggs.
If you lease it to a farmer, you're no better than a landlord (in fact, you are one) and I don't see why the whole of lemmy doesnt start pissing on you right away.

[–] libra00@lemmy.world 12 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Looks like a farm, maybe plant something?

[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Put potato in the ground, makes more potatos, shit's crazy

[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 1 points 15 minutes ago

You have no idea. Non organic planted potato's have an average yield of 40t/ha. So this field would give you about 100t of potato's. And trust me, you can't do this manually and even with machines this takes a shit load of time. Without any experience in farming and without equipment, which is needed (you dont need machines to plant and harvest, because they are waaay to expensive) this is still quite a big investment. Potato's also drain the soils quite a lot so you need to have a rotation of at least a few years. But what do you do in the years where you dont plant potatos?

[–] answersplease77@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

according to my calculations if I started planting potatos in my farm that would yield = the sum of times of planting (n^n-th) * (n^n-th) potatos = n^2n-th , basically infitity^infinity of potatos in no time

[–] WhatYouNeed@lemmy.world 80 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Build a large wall around the entire perimeter of the property.

Construct a tall stone tower in the middle of the property and paint it completely matt black.

Poison the land around the tower, so nothing, not even grass can grow.

Have packs of wild, feral dogs roam the property.

Dress in dark grey robes, and spend the rest of your days on the top of the tower, screaming obscenities at any passers-by, or shaking your fist angryly at the sky.

[–] Geobloke@lemm.ee 12 points 11 hours ago

Move the stone wall out each night and slowly claim more land like an insidious virus

[–] Geobloke@lemm.ee 5 points 11 hours ago

You also need to move the stone fence out each night to expand your domain

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

*Mount a fiery red spotlight at the top of the tower and move the beam randomly around the property in case of hobbits

[–] libra00@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

That's totally where I thought they were going with that.

[–] sfjvvssss@lemmy.world 25 points 23 hours ago

Do nothing, watch nature claim it back.

[–] Stepskippin@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Vineyards around here have set up wedding venues. People pay stupid amounts of money for weddings. If you can set up a few areas that are particularly photogenic you'd be good. Much of the land you could just leave to nature, which could be a huge part of the appeal. Make a few trails and like 2-3 buildings for the wedding and reception.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago

Disked fields would imply a unproductive field sold off to make up losses so I wouldn't count on his soul quality unless you're willing to do deep ground aeration and nutrient injection or simply wait longer then you'll likely have left.

[–] Hikermick@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] amksenin@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (2 children)

Attract people with the true promise of very cheap, simple, communal living, free from the pressures of capitalist society, a shared belief system, and/or a common ideology.

Offer free workshops on useful skills like food storage and survival techniques, meditation, prayer, self-sufficiency, trauma counseling and drug and alcohol rehabilitation

Restrict calories by setting meal times and durations.

Make sure there is enough work so that everyone is busy all the time

Restrict movement by having mandatory meetings, meditation sessions, or chores at particular times throughout the day so nobody has time to go to town.

Erode individual identity with common dress, common food, common hairstyles etc.

Identify and keep track of individual weaknesses (Trauma, parental issues, weight insecurity, financial insecurity, fear of failure, fear of abandonment mental illness), key motivations (Financial stability, seeking to be apart from society, seeking happiness), basic desires (financial security, relationship security, being part of a community, sex)

Make extensive use of seed phrases and formal speech rules so that people censor their own speech. EG Each must greet the other with 'Good day, good evening, good morning, etc. As innocuous as this sounds, it forces interactions to begin on a predictable footing, and guides conversation along predictable lines. Said often enough, the formal 'Good morning' excludes the possibility that anything bad has happened, is happening, or might happen. People cannot speak to children and vice versa without a parent present (very handy if you take in runaways that have no parents), unmarried men and women may not be alone together except when courting, new members must have a guide/buddy/chaperone/mentor/elder present with them at all times for the duration of their probation.

Maintain division by requiring individuals to report non-conformity by others, make non-reporting of non-conformity a punishable act, and make non-conformity a poorly defined and easily applied term, so that everyone is guilty, and you as the leader get to pick and choose who is punished.

Punishments are gentle tightening of above restrictions - more work, less food, less interpersonal contact, less free time, more proselytizing etc.

Reward extravagantly those who recruit others, using free time, more food, more freedom, sex with other members as a reward.

Reward extravagantly revenue-generating activities, manufacturing, labor, producing food, donating money or assets, or illicit income such as burglary and shoplifting .

Enjoy your cult.

[–] answersplease77@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Are you at work? This is enough lemmy for the day

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

You joining my cult or nah?

[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

You forgot some important aspects:

People will have to give you all their belongings. They will have nothing if they ever want to leave. This can be done by making them pay for the workshops, with levels each more expensive then the other, making them not wanting to give up since they are already this far in and makes them give you everything they have to reach the next level. They must do so, otherwise they won't have true devotion and they will risk punishment and have fear of being expelled. Look at Scientology, NXIVM.

They need to break ties with friends and relatives. Isolate them, so they have no one to return to if they ever want to leave. True isolation, with only you to lead them. They cannot trust anyone else, they cannot trust themselves. Only you. Again, Scientology.

Reward and punish them, but haphazardly, you don't want to be predictable. This way they will do anything to get rewarded and are super scared to be punished. Break them down mentally, then build them up again according to your strict plan. Controlling their food and sleep helps (deprive them). They will follow you blindly and give up everything. See the documentary Stolen Youth on Hulu.

What many cults do wrong, is not having a business plan. You need income, so make them work for something you can sell. See the documentary Wild Wild Country on Netflix, they did this perfectly. You have basically free labor so you can compete in many markets.

And don't forget you need good propaganda. You need new members, they need to think everything is super happy and they will learn new things about themselves (they will, after you break them first). Have a PR division, don't be scared to pay someone properly to do this. Look at NXIVM, Scientology.

There's a documentary about NXIVM called:

  • The Vow

Documentaries listed above:

  • Wild Wild Country
  • Stolen youth (this one was heavy on me)

Other documentaries to watch:

  • Love has won, the cult of mother God (this one is really fucked up)
  • The way down
  • Escaping utopia
  • Raël
  • The deep end
  • Breath of fire
  • The program
  • Escaping twin flames
  • Kumaré
  • Prophet's prey
[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Thanks bud, I'll check out those films. Love Kumaré, I watched it again just a little while ago.

I follow a podcast called Let's Talk About Sects, by a nice Australian lady called Sarah Steel who talks about different cults each week and studies them, she's very, very good.

[–] Lumiluz@slrpnk.net 11 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Marketing.

But first you need the idea. I'd say leftwing based religious science compatible apocalyptics is an untapped market. So basically make a bunker commune for societal collapse based on climate change and say all the current right wing politicians are demons accelerating it to bring upon hell on earth, and that oil is the devil's blood.

Just off the top of my head that's an idea.

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[–] seeigel@feddit.org 44 points 1 day ago

Sell it and remember that you first figure out what you want and then you buy the suitable land for it.

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 70 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Plant potatoes. Charge rich families to come out and harvest potatoes as a "total farm experience". Sell them as a "rustic handgrown" crop.

Take the profit and buy a shit ton of meth and smoke until your heart explodes. Die with a smile as you escape late stage capitalism ✨️

[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 1 points 10 minutes ago

This is also what I suggested (not exactly but about the same concept). Biggest problem might be, that its maybe a bit far off from the next city.

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[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

What's the legality of that land?

Where I live there's no way a plot of land is suited for both farming and a Hotel.

If you build something in a place where residential/commercial buildings are not allowed you are in for a lot of troubles.

If the weather provides the safest bet for the most profit would probably be plant some easy trees or some plant that would not need a lot of caring, and just sell the products.

That for money. If I were you and I had money to throw I would just built a retire House for myself and collect my returns in peace of mind and health. But then again, residential buildings may not be allowed there.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago

These "laws" are just manmade constructs, I only trust the word of god. (And god told me to build a compound and fill it with devotees and guns)

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

What will people do there? The same thing people have done for 10,000 years. Alcohol, sex, and games.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Take a tupperware container set and test the water supplied to the field for PH value using a pack of litmus papers, then test the four corners and center of your field by scooping up some dirt, adding some water, and testing with litmus paper. Next, drain out the water and let it evaporate and look for signs of crystalization or condensates. Seal some of your soil samples to see if a healthy soil biome blooms in the sample, fungus and such.

A good healthy soil will have a strong biome. It and its water supply should be close to PH 6 to 7 for most tall grass and similar crops. There should be little to no saline in your soil, signs of that might indicate a brine pit forming in the water table near your land.

The most valuable single-season crops are crops that you can process yourself rather than selling to a granary. For examples: milled flour, corn byproducts, alcoholic ingredients, beets for sugar, bamboo, or switchgrass fermented into propionic acid biofuel. The major downside to being your own processor is that you're also your own distributor which is very difficult.

Sometimes subsidies make unprofitable crops profitable, sometimes granaries or local brewers offer a good price for specific crops. Be sure to check the local market thoroughly.

Make sure to join up with any farming groups in your area and get insured for any farming you do. Also get somebody to provide some bee boxes.

[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 1 points 6 minutes ago

You should devinetively watch out with planting bamboo. Do not, under no circumstance, plant bamboo that spreads with its roots because that shit might be a nightmare to get rid if afterwards.

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)
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