it says it's a Notion alternative... Not a Google Docs alternative.
One Notion FOSS alternative I've been testing out is SiYuan.
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I like logseq a lot, though org mode is still the one in my heart
Call me an anarkiddy all you want but I don't think contributing to literal governmentware is a good idea
Why? Would be better to have a code and software that belongs to us all and that a government is responsible for it.
I mean fair, still better than US corporate tech lol which is going to do ANYTHING the US government wants.
Open Source is cool and all, but nothing beats this illustration!
This is how all government digital services should be done. Built out in the open for everyone to use, collaborate, and benefit from.
No more enriching tech oligarchs only to have them inevitably enshitify, use our data to invade our privacy and run propaganda campaigns, at a higher cost to everyone than governments simply building or contributing to common projects directly.
I’m not complaining, but why create something from the ground up when they could be improving OnlyOffice or LibreOffice?
It's a different thing. It's online like Google docs.
asked this somewhere else, but does anyone know how it compares to Cryptpad which is also developed in France, open source, self hostable, collaborative, and end-to-end encrypted?
As long as it has a better interface I’ll be happy. Looking forward to trying this.
Im curious as well!
So like OnlyOffice and LibreOffice Online?
Edit: to clarify: both of these products can be self hosted. OnlyOffice’s main business model is to sell hosting services, their software is AGPL v3.
Between OnlyOffice or LibreOffice which do you recommend?
OnlyOffice is certainly more mature as a hosted app. It was born like this, the desktop version was the port. LibreOffice Online is still beta, I think.
So if your interest is in hosting and online editing, OnlyOffice. Also has an interface that’s very similar to MS Office 365, which can be a pro or con to some. LibreOffice has a more traditional toolbar paradigm.
You can try both before string up a server to see what you prefer. They’re both copyleft so no chance of a rug pull.
They’re both copyleft so no chance of a rug pull.
That's not accurate. It also takes an absence of a cla (Contributor License Agreement) transfering ownership of patches and a diverse set of major contributors to develop that protection.
GPL protects against outside entities taking over a project via a fork, owners are always free to change the license of what they made.
I didn't see a cla on either libreoffice online nor onlyoffice, but you would have to contribute some actual changes to see you don't need to agree to anything and they will accept your contributions without rewriting them later.
In comparison for example audacity makes you transfer rights over code contributions to them. That means they could make audacity closed source at any time and any version from that point would be proprietary. Would they not force contributors to sign that cla, and instead go with a copyleft contribution license, then with going closed source they would violate the licenses under which they use all these contributions.
Basically distributed ownership prevents rug pulls, since ownership beats license restrictions. So you have to check that a project has spread out ownership (independend major contributions) connected by copyleft licenses (standard unless overridden by a (non copyleft) cla)
If such a thing would happen, all you need to do is fork the previous, copyleft, version of the code and go on with life as if nothing happened. That’s an economic disincentive for maintainers to try such shenanigans.