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Tim Walz says he and Harris were too ‘safe’ during 2024 presidential campaign (www.theguardian.com)

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Summary

Minnesota Governor Tim Walz has criticized the Harris-Walz 2024 presidential campaign for playing it too "safe," saying they should have held more in-person events and town halls.

In a Politico interview, Walz—known for labeling Trump and Vance as "weird"—blamed their cautious approach partly on the abbreviated 107-day campaign timeline after Harris became the nominee in August.

Using football terminology, he said Democrats were in a "prevent defense" when "we never had anything to lose, because I don't think we were ever ahead."

While acknowledging his share of responsibility for the loss, Walz is returning to the national spotlight and didn't rule out a 2028 presidential run, saying, "I'm not saying no."

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[–] MooseyMoose@lemmy.world -1 points 3 days ago

Gee who would have thought that completely ignoring the anti-war/genocide crowd and courting the CHENEYS "moderate Republicans" while keeping absolutely silent about Medicare for all and touting a "keep America lethal" platform would have backfired for one of the least popular politicians ever who was just anointed as the presidential candidate without any sort of primary at all. I'm so confused!

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (15 children)

The old guard (both literal and figurative) need to get the fuck out of the way for the AOC's and Crockett's who will actually speak to power instead of cowering in the corners.

The other big problem is that politics have become such a negative impact on people's lives in the US that regular people don't want to run for office anymore, which is what we really need.

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[–] gatohaus@eviltoast.org 1 points 5 days ago (5 children)

And the Dems are, mostly, still too safe. They need to start fighting while they still have a chance of stopping the insanity.

Step 1: Schumer needs to step down.

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[–] arotrios@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Okay Walz, that's a start, but we've yet to see you go hard. Step it up or get out of Al Green's way and let him cane the fuck outta these Nazi shitheads.

[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I wish Al Green were 20 years younger and wanted to be POTUS. He is the real deal. Visit his web site. He is totally devoted to his district and his constituents. I tried to send him some money but there is no indication he's at all interested in any money out side his district. Unlike so many other Dem candidates and pols, I could not even find a place to send a donation to Rep. Green because I'm not in his district.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago

Al Green is the representative we all need in this time of national crisis. If every democrat in office was an Al Green I'd be feeling better for my life as someone Trump targets with his vitriol.

I have nothing but respect for him at this moment.

[–] 108@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They still are being soft. Why would you think it would change?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Its just white noise. If you went back two months and addressed the KHive / Bidenbro block that was fanatically endorsing this campaign, does anyone seriously think "soft" or "safe" would be a term they'd use to describe the media appearances or the ground game?

No, of course not! Harris was Girl Boss. Cheeto Mussolini was the weak one. JD Vance was too busy fucking couches to answer the hard questions like "Why do you enjoy sucking Putin's cock?" and "Why do you enjoy sucking Elon Musk's cock?" and "Why do you enjoy sucking Peter Thiel's cock?"

Meanwhile, Harris was out there punching illegal immigrants. She was making those effeminate cop-hating LGBTers eat Terf. She was out there dropping Facts And Logic on those stupid Iran-loving antisemetic ISIS students. She was bringing out the big guns with Liz Fucking Cheney and making sure every voter knew that America First A#1 City On A Hill sound of F-35s flying overhead we're going to Beat Russia and Obliterate China and Nuke Far-Right Islamic Hate.

Nobody thought the campaign was "soft" in October of 2024. They were priding themselves on their BlueMAGA credentials.

Its only after they lost that we got to retcon the campaign as too squishy and liberal and egalitarian. Maybe next time they'll bomb Dearborn Michigan or stage a full invasion of Tiajuana to prove they're serious about being the most reactionary party in America.

[–] TheresNodiee@lemm.ee 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm reading his "safe" comment in a bit of a different light. The Harris campaign was playing "safe" politics by ooh rah-ing about the military, guns, and the border. By throwing their full support behind Israel and shouting down and cutting out concerned for the Palestinian people. By running around with Liz Cheney.

Their campaign started off strong. Kamala was brat, Walz was calling Trump and his allies weird and joking about Vance fucking his couch. There was energy but they dropped the ball by switching to the "safe" Democrat campaign book. They didn't go out to speak to the people where they were at town halls like Walz said in the article, they didn't have firebrand Walz shining a flashlight on how bizarre Trump's people are, they didn't have a message that would excite the people and really shake up a statue quo that was slowly and inexorably draining Americans of their economic prospects. They just played the safe Democrat game of incrementalism and subservience to wealth and power rather than the people.

Obviously Walz didn't say all this, but I think the "safety" he refers to absolutely refers to Kamala's campaign adhering too closely to a traditional campaign style that was not going to win them much enthusiastic support.

[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Well, Trump and the GOP are working to make sure Palestinians aren't going to be an issue any more. By helping Israel genocide them.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Well they have a long way to go to eclipse Bidens support of racist genocide, but I'm sure they'll try hard.

[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

“A long way to go”????? Pretty sure removing Palestinians from Palestine is about as far as one can go.

[–] skittle07crusher@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

What an absolute fucking champ-

While acknowledging his share of responsibility for the loss, Walz is returning to the national spotlight and didn't rule out a 2028 presidential run, saying, "I'm not saying no."

Both of those things are such music to my ears (although ofc we should all know that it was Harris’s brother-in-law Uber exec lawyer who muzzled Walz and deserves that blame that Walz is selflessly taking on here).

Sadly I’m not even sure the US will exist by 2028.

[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

pritzker with a walz vp would be my ideal ticket.

Pritzker stands his ground, knows what to say, and won't just bow down to the establishment of republicans OR the dem establishment. I think he's the best pick. He's also great with budget, lgbtq rights, and common sense policies

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

pritzker with a walz vp

Pritzker is a staunch pro war zionist. Same as Harris was. Thats your dream guy huh.

You still think dems can carry that sort of baggage to a win?

Jews are 2% of the US population, split ~70% dem. About 70-80% support Israels genocide. Thats a tiny, tiny minority of the partys voters. Why do we keep putting full throated zionist war supporters at the head of our party when it inevitably leads to election losses? Reform jewish candidates who dont support genocide, fine-- sure. But why do we back zionists? Do we need AIPAC money that badly? Or does no one care that it destroys our global economic and military soft power, the value of the USD, and loses us elections? (even discounting that it murders innocents)

[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Pritzker is a staunch pro war zionist. Same as Harris was. Thats your dream guy huh.

I care about economic policy. I care about lgbtq rights. I care about abortion rights.

I don't care about stopping or not stopping a war that has been ongoing for nearly a century. Both those godforsaken countries have made their beds. They can lie in them. While I don't believe genocide is right, and think this Israeli government is evil for it, it will never effect my voting, as nothing the usa does at this point in time will stop it.

It does not hurt our global economic or soft power either...

Your statement on his stance is also much stronger than his actual stance.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

@fredthefishlord:

I don’t care about stopping or not stopping a war that has been ongoing for nearly a century

If you dont care about murdering innocents, whats your convincing argument for me to care about lgbtq rights?

have made their beds. They can lie in them.

Actually we made those beds too. Do you think we had no hand in whats been going on there? We're just sitting idly by across the ocean with clean hands in all this?

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