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Due to Apple pulling ADP from uk consumers I think it would be fitting for us to discuss and suggest alternatives that our uk members could use and switch to.

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[–] thebardingreen@lemmy.starlightkel.xyz 25 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

Given everything going on in the world, I can't say this often enough:

The only infrastructure we can trust is our own.

https://lemmy.ml/c/selfhost@lemmy.ml

https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted@lemmy.world

[–] Ste41th@lemmy.ml 5 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Whilst I’ll agree with your statement some people prefer a service to use rather than self hosted.

And I suppose some people may worry about electric usage as well when running hardware 24/7. I guess that’s just 1 reason.

[–] pogodem0n@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

I recently discovered Filen and all their clients are open-source. It claims to encrypt all files before uploading and I did notice my CPU usage ramp up quite a lot during it. Though, I currently lack the time and expertise to audit their code.

[–] thebardingreen@lemmy.starlightkel.xyz 6 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Whilst I’ll agree with your statement some people prefer a service to use rather than self hosted.

Great! They can prefer that. Lots of people (most people probably) even need services, because they lack the skills and / or equipment.

That doesn't change the simple truth of "the only infrastructure we can trust is our own." My goal with that statement is to educate people as much as possible NOT to trust the third party services they're using, even if those services supposedly care about privacy and security.

I've also seen a huge outpouring in recent weeks of people who are suddenly very eager to learn about and use self hosted infrastructure (or get access to someone else's self hosted infrastructure). For some reason, I wonder what that could be. I've never seen anything like it in my life. I for one intend to encourage the shit out of it.

[–] harsh3466@lemmy.ml 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

100% this. If you self host it you control your own data and can choose to encrypt it as well.

If you want e2ee file storage look at seafile.

If you want e2ee chat go signal if you don't want to host, matrix if you do want to self host.

[–] thebardingreen@lemmy.starlightkel.xyz 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

The barrier to entry to get Self Hosted Matrix working is unfortunately pretty high. Matrix is a great tool, but getting it working requires advanced skills and (in my limited experience) hours of troubleshooting.

That being said, I'm associated with an organization that wants to help activist groups self host matrix. If you know a group with need, check out https://rmfuni.org/.

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 1 points 7 hours ago

I got Conduit working relatively easily. However, it had constant issues with encryption in groups. I never even considered Synapse because it's too heavy for my minimal, cheap VPS.

Self-hosted XMPP is much easier tho, and it "just works".

[–] Yesbutnotreally@lemmy.world 7 points 16 hours ago
[–] land@lemmy.ml 16 points 20 hours ago

For photos:

Self host: Immich

Privacy-Friendly service: Ente

For file storage:

  • Nexcloud
  • Filen.io
[–] tabel2@lemmy.wtf 5 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (2 children)

If you don't want to self-host, consider Proton Drive, ente.io, or crypt.ee.

I use Proton Drive; it's not perfect, but Proton has been around for 10 years. ente.io seems promising, but they haven't been around for long enough. crypt.ee seems fine, ~~but it has the same problem as ente.io,~~ and I don't like their interface(Edit: crypt.ee has been around for 8 year's).

If none of the above options suit you, maybe try sync.com; they claim to encrypt all their files with end-to-end encryption.

Filen.io's offer of cheap lifetime plans on Black Friday this raises a red flag for me, as lifetime plans are not a sustainable business model.

Both proton, ente.io and crypt.ee have been on podcasts I would listen to those before deciding what to go with.

[–] sonalder@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Cryptee started in 2017, so around 8 years, I think it can be said that the are not new commers. It's not as old as Proton of course but yeah I think you can not say they haven't been around for long enough. ente started in 2020 so it's been 5 years I think it's starting to be fair to assume they can be sustainable for the comming years but it's still relatively new of course.

[–] tabel2@lemmy.wtf 1 points 5 hours ago

Didn't realize crypt.ee was that "old". Ente.io is still a bit to new for me.

[–] Coldmoon@sh.itjust.works 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Proton Drive is absolutely horrid at photo sharing and storage.

[–] tabel2@lemmy.wtf 2 points 18 hours ago

If you're on mac or windows i think the storage part is fine. But otherwise yes. In my opinion proton is the best alternative if you don't want to selfhost.

[–] mox@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

I avoid Apple devices, so I don't have a first-hand recommendation, but something like Nextcloud would seem to fit.

https://nextcloud.com/encryption/