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For years, the debate surrounding vaping largely centered on its risks for high school and middle school students enticed by flavors like gummy bear, lemonade and watermelon.

But the recent shift toward e-cigarettes that can’t be refilled has created a new environmental dilemma. The devices, which contain nicotine, lithium and other metals, cannot be reused or recycled. Under federal environmental law, they also aren’t supposed to go in the trash.

U.S. teens and adults are buying roughly 12 million disposable vapes per month. With little federal guidance, local officials are finding their own ways to dispose of e-cigarettes collected from schools, colleges, vape shops and other sites.

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[–] who8mydamnoreos@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Deposits work for my milk bottles they could work for vapes if you made them high enough. Also another barrier to kids accessing them if they have to pay a deposit every time.

[–] Sheik@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Should just ban disposable vapes imo. They only get people into vaping, they don’t help quitting smoking cigarettes better that reusable vapes.

[–] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

That'd be great except the FDA decimated the market outside of disposables. I now only have 1-2 shops in my (250k pop.) city selling juice, coils, mods, and batteries all with pretty limited selection and wildly high prices, where previously I could order from one of hundreds of companies online at dirt cheap prices. Most corner stores still have a full selection of cigarettes and disposables though.

[–] who8mydamnoreos@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

People hate bans on things though; the hassle of being forced to properly dispose of the devices would be enough discouragement to lessen the amount of providers.

[–] Melkath@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Prohibition. Does. Not. Work.

[–] SheeEttin@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

The ban is not on vaping, just disposable vapes. Anyone who wants to vape can still get a regular one.

[–] Sheik@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

It’s not prohibition, it’s regulation.

[–] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I can't see this working with disposables as you'd have people bringing in devices of unknown condition and piling them into a bin full of lithium batteries. That's how you wind up burning your store down.

[–] who8mydamnoreos@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes the disposal would be a hassle but that is the point. It would discourage businesses from carrying the devices if they had to handle returning them as well.

[–] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 3 points 10 months ago

It's not so much of a hassle as it is a danger and I don't think places like Circle K or your local corner store should be penalized for selling a perfectly legal product nor should their untrained employees be forced to handle potentially dangerous materials. If anything, the manufacturers of these products should be penalized and forced to come up with a solution to the problem.

[–] MrMcGasion@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Some stores have this now in the US via the Call2Recycle program from the RBRC. They were started to offer a convenient way to recycle NiCd batteries, but they take lithium batteries, and cell phones now as well. I've taken in batteries out of "disposable" vapes before (did the disassembly myself though, so they basically looked like any other small lithium battery). Definitely understand the concern about keeping a bin full of questionable batteries around while you wait for the box to be full enough to send in though, but there are plenty of stores where it's already a thing.

[–] Kache@lemm.ee 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like an externality that should be paid for as these things are manufactured

[–] Bell@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Or indeed every thing that's manufactured

[–] girlfreddy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

Maybe the gov't should set up regulations before allowing sales.

But that would make sense.

[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'll tell you what happens to them: they get thrown in the trash. If we're lucky. These things are littered everywhere. Put a $2 deposit on each one and set up places to return them for the deposit return. They're disgusting. If that's not enough, increase the deposit. If people don't like it, at least it will drive them to use those stupid looking ones that look like someone's fellating a walkie-talkie.

[–] Metacortechs@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

I call mine a robot dick, thank you very much.

[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 9 points 10 months ago

Man, disposable vapes are such an awful trend, I wish they were banned.
Make people buy a proper vape device and their own refills, ban those nasty e-waste fuckers already

[–] PaupersSerenade@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I don't have a solution for this. I vape, and have done for a while. It's just easier, cheaper, and nicer than smoking a stick. I've stuck with Smok products for the majority of it, and those use refillable tanks. Tanks were how it was always done, but now when I take a 'smoke' break, most of the adults have those stupid pods. I used one as a stop gap when my main device got lost on a trip and its corpse is still sitting on my desk. /rant