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EDIT: no, I don't sympathize with nazis (neither I sympathize with those who call everyone nazi when they're losing an argument ;)

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[–] ZoomeristLeninist@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

lol its this shit every time libs see a legitimate left stance. im assuming you’ve seen the sh.itjust.works defed post. its like 5 super vocal users having a conniption fit that there are communists on the internet

[–] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

geordi-no defederate to maintain your very special echo chamber

geordi-yes defederate to stop sh.tjust.works chuds from harassing your comrades in DMs with violent, transphobic and ableist attacks

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[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

The marketplace of ideas is only okay if they're ideas I agree with!

[–] Mouette@jlai.lu 0 points 2 years ago (3 children)

If the 'thing you dont agree' with is hate speech or shit promotting violence for example that's the only sane option you have lol

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Find me one neoliberal who isn't promoting violence.

[–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 years ago (13 children)

Here's a comment thread where a Hexbear user said "I hope to kill people like you" because I simply said I supported democratic socialism.

Going on any Hexbear instance people froth over telling anyone right of Karl Marx to "get up against the wall". You guys are, and will always be, a joke.

[–] Mindfury@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

because I simply said I supported democratic socialism.

so you promoted violence first?
i'm failing to see your complaint here

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[–] uralsolo@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I simply said I supported democratic socialism

So you said that you support the regime of extreme global inequality against the third world in order to maintain treats in the first.

[–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I support what are realistic policies actually will push the status quo in the direction you want.

Larping on the internet waiting for a revolution to occur seems like a nice fantasy.

[–] uralsolo@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

IDK what country you're from, but in America at least, a democratic socialist has about as much likelihood of being elected to any given office as a communist does, so if you're looking for "realistic" policies you should look elsewhere.

[–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

There are numerous democratic socialists who are in Congress, you just aren't paying attention.

Run for office. There have been many spoilers from genuine grassroots campaigns. Don't want to do either? Keep coping and seething online.

[–] uralsolo@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Who are you talking about? AOC? If your definition of a democratic socialist is a left-leaning Democrat then it is thoroughly incompatible with mine, because I would require at a minimum that anybody classified as any kind of "socialist" be staunchly opposed to Capital.

[–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm talking about Emmanuel Goldstein. Anyone I can possibly list will never meet your purity test.

[–] uralsolo@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago

Yes. We purity test. People who support capitalism cannot be counted upon to overthrow it. Glad we're on the same page.

[–] Chapo_is_Red@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I too support democratic socialism

chavez-salute

maduro-salute

evo

allende-rhetoric

Allende just needed more people's militias

[–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I'm not sure if you are aware of this, but the Allende thing is more a US intervention problem that a democratic socialism problem. Certainly Mohammad Mosaddegh would agree.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Wow, you mean the US will just destroy you no matter how much you play by their rules, and that all that handwringing about evil communism is just bad-faith obfuscation from the world-eating vampire class to mislead their billions of victims? Wild.

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

The master's tools will never dismantle the master's house. Entryism always ends up changing the entrant instead of the system. We are revolutionary socialists.

[–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's clear you never studied US politics if you think that is remotely true. The Gilded Age and the Great Depression briefly pushed America away from corporate interests towards policy that benefited the working class. We averted overt fascism a la the Business Plot and the ratfucking that Smedley Butler disclosed while being the most badass anti-capitalist ever.

You're not a revolutionary socialist, you're a larper who won't do anything to better the world other than wait for this revolution like it's the second coming of Christ.

You guys are the QAnon of the left.

[–] uralsolo@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago

We averted overt fascism a la the Business Plot

You're describing one group of bourgeoisie resisting a takeover by a different group of bourgeoisie. This is not a meaningful resistance to capitalism, this is the maintenance of a capitalist state.

[–] a_blanqui_slate@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Haha, classic Catradora_Stalinism, what a rascal.

[–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

She would make a great staffer in the Lubyanka.

[–] a_blanqui_slate@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

She's probably like 16 dude chill and welcome to the Internet where people fling the most unhinged nonsense at each other without a second thought

[–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

An aggressive communist with no sense of how the world works could be a child? You're the most self aware Hexbear user.

Also lol to "dude chill". I'm not the one fantasizing about murdering people.

[–] a_blanqui_slate@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

She's not here, do you want me to pop into that thread and chastise her for you?

My mind just boggles at the fact that anyone is taking this two bit reddit clone seriously enough to carry a grudge longer that the lifespan of a single thread.

[–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You're doing a lot of coping with that seething.

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[–] ScrivenerX@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Funny how one instance is the one everyone wants to defederate from.

[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Currently. Of course in the past it was exploding heads for being Nazis, Lemmygrad for being insufferable tankies, then Burggit for lolicon, now hexbear for being insufferable tankies.

[–] randint@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Heck I think Lemmygrad is more tolerable than Hexbear, by a lot.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Do they allow downvotes? Hexbear doesn't which means everything they disagree with gets a reply with a handful of large emoji.

[–] Flinch@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

people hate getting called out for their terrible opinions shrug-outta-hecks

[–] bigboig@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Lol is that why hexbear is defederating from so many instances?

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[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

It's intriguing how everyone that views themselves as moderates/liberals forget (or are unacquainted with it) about the paradox of tolerance.

Tolerance implies everyone has a right to express their ideas and you want that. You want everything out in the open, so you can pick at it, dismantle it and render it pitiful, ridiculous and useless.

You want the intolerant crying out loud that you are intolerant as that means you are doing the right thing. The intolerant want silence, forced, while the tolerant want noise, anger, tension.

Remember that anything worthwhile needs to be fought for. Don't regret being vocal and harsh towards intolerance.

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