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How would you answer this, and how would you expect Chinese netizens on Xiaohongshu to answer?

I will link to the thread in the comments because I want you to take a moment and think about it first.

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[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 60 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I would like to hope no one nation is the future. Replacing one global hegemony with another is not my idea of progress.

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I'm onboard with Wales. Let Wales rule for a bit.

[–] anon6789@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh my, I can't even begin to imagine what a Texan or Creole Welsh accent would sound like if that was the international language! πŸ˜΅β€πŸ’«

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago

*sneezes* *snorts* *coughs* *clears throat* *yodelays*

I'm sorry, what was your question

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[–] Achyu@lemmy.sdf.org 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

As an Indian, I think they seem more well-planned and more decent than recent USAmerica.
India and China does have border issues, but I do respect them as I agree with their leftist view of reducing poverty and improving literacy. I think our countries could come to decent compromise there.
Also, the communism aspects.

But saying that a single country is the future is too simple.

And even the Chinese seem to be not emulating America to be an empire.
I think their aim is a multi-polar world. Atleast if the random yt vids I saw are proper representations.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I think it's pretty clear that despite Trump's attempts to revitalize US manufacturing, the US won't be able to outpace China's industrial growth even if they hard pivot. China is, like it or not, almost certainly the next Global Hegemon as the US' grip on the world is falling. Western Europe won't be able to oppose it either.

I think Chinese citizens are generally hopeful for their country, but more than anything I think most of their citizens would want everyone to advance. I don't think any doubt that China will surpass the US.

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In many ways, China already has surpassed the US.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago

For sure. However, the PRC is still a developing countrt, while the US is a declining Empire. The US has farther to fall and China further to rise, especially in the next 1-2 decades.

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[–] Taalnazi@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (27 children)

No thanks, replacing one imperialist for another won't help the world.

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[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Real talk, I take comfort in knowing that the high tech future we were promised at the turn of the millennium isn't dead after all, it's just happening in China

[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

For whatever it's worth, despite never formally studying Chinese, I managed to read both the Chinese sentences, albeit with the wrong tones. Like to be fair I have studied Japanese, and I am generally a bit of a weirdo with a knack for this sort of thing β€” but I do still have to wonder if more people are just going to start casually picking up hanzi just from exposure like I have, as China becomes more prominent. I could certainly see it happening.

"China is the future" is a bit of a vague question, though. Just from my interpretation of it...

I absolutely think that the USA is currently crumbling as the world's hegemon β€” interestingly enough, the USA's flag actually has stars on it to represent a "new constellation", using the constellations in the sky as an allegory for the rise and fall of nations; so it indeed seems like the fifty-star constellation is beginning to fall beyond the horizon, as a new five-star constellation rises.

This being said, I don't think China's behavior as future hegemon will be the same as the USA's current behavior as present hegemon. I don't necessarily know what to expect from the future, though, so it's probably best to prepare for all possibilities until we gain a clearer understanding of the situation.

[–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Also, we can't really know and judge China as the world leader, as they're not yet.

As soon as you are on top, your behaviour might change. Both for the better, but most likely for the worse. (see US)

Also, we have to remember that China still needs all western partners to keep up their production. They are still a manufacturing country.

[–] baaaaaaaaaaah@hexbear.net 16 points 1 week ago (10 children)

As soon as you are on top, your behaviour might change.

It might, it might not. America's behavior didn't change; from the start they've been aggressive and expansionist, the scope just grew as they became more powerful.

China's been growing rapidly for decades while very seldomly acting militarily outside their borders. They don't seem to have expansionist goals outside those declared over 70 years ago (ie Taiwan) and have even negotiated down on border conflicts. It's not impossible but it'd be strange for China to make a complete about-turn on their stated policy of non-intervention.

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[–] theywilleatthestars@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Still hoping for that future that's borderless and red and queer and bold.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago

We'll get there.

[–] roux@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago

If the US doesn't fuck up it's own demise and just dies peacefully, I can see that being the case.

But I think China would use their new powers to help lift other countries up instead of continuing to use the global south as a giant slave plantation like the US is doing.

[–] Lurkerino@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago

I want the mandate of heaven to come to all of us.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Link

:::spoiler If you don't have the app, it may be hard to view, so here are some screenshots

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Looks like I was dead-on, haha.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Tbh, I was shocked. Much as I'm sympathetic towards China, but I still usually look at it through a lens of realpolitik, like, "Of course they're vying for dominance like everyone else, but at least they're doing it through economic development instead of wars, and it's better if there are two major powers instead of one." Maybe that cynical perspective is more realistic, and maybe XHS users aren't a representative sample of all Chinese people, but still, the fact that so many of the replies were so hopeful and internationalist was genuinely moving to me.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well, you're correct that XHS isn't the general population of China, it skews middle-high income, so you aren't getting the full picture. However, from what I've read from many younger Chinese political activists and analysts is that as China is now heavily industrialized, there is a sense of moving out of the over-ambitious optimism of the previous generations to a more grounded, educated, realistic optimism that is genuinely more hopeful as a consequence of its grounding.

China has libs. China has problems. China has struggles. But, by virtue of its position and strategy, the people also take on a generally internationalist character. "Let a hundred flowers bloom," Socialism with Chinese Characteristics is a prediction, more than a description. It's a prediction of Socialism with Ugandan Characteristics, Canadian, Brazilian, etc. That gives a sense of their overall attitude, IMO.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

As much as we might criticize the whole, "End of History" idea, I feel like the 90's was the last time Americans had anything like that kind of optimism. There was a feeling that we were entering a new age of international cooperation, and although I was only a child that was something I really believed in. But we soon found new conflicts to be embroiled in a the dream has died and was proven to be foolish and naive, and now everyone across the political spectrum is highly cynical.

I'm sure that there are many cynical people in China too, but I can hardly remember the last time I saw someone who wasn't cynical when it comes to politics. Whether or not it's naive, it hits me on an emotional level.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago

The good thing about China is that they have a lot of reason to be hopeful, due to many massive improvements in the last century, skyrocketing in the last decade. USians largely still envision 90s China, and are having that image shattered.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Damn, they blocked Tor Browser.

I went to Fennec with uBlock on and VPN enabled (privacy reasons), the first thing I see is a download attempt of the 小纒书 .apk file. I tap X, and it does it again. Damn, seem like Reddit all over again. πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ

Also, they require a +86 phone number for registration. πŸ€” Not a fan of that. Its like Facebook + region locking. Well I guess it make sense... too many TikTok refugees lol.

I had to change to user agent to windows. The comments are pretty chill, unlike some other Chinese sites. I don't see any "MAGA" type comments like you would see on twitter.

Edit: Hmm my webpage only shows like 10 comments, then stops showing... πŸ€”

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