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[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 17 points 19 hours ago

Microsoft Probing If DeepSeek-Linked Group Improperly Obtained data the same way OpenAI did. --FTFY

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 10 points 19 hours ago

OMG Competition!

QUICK, they're a foreign threat! They're coming right for us!!!!

[–] NutWrench@lemmy.world 20 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

When a writer copies someone else's work without cites or compensation, it's called "plagiarism." But when an AI does it, it's called "LLM training."

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 18 points 23 hours ago

Unless that AI is not OpenAI, then it's "plagiarism" still.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 2 points 19 hours ago

When a reader reads someone else’s work that’s called “reading”. But when an AI does it, it’s called “training”.

[–] Deepus@lemm.ee 10 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

What the fuck is Microsoft getting involved for?! Maybe concentrate on not providing shitty fucking software fuck heads!

[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 14 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

They have a large stake in OpenAI, last I checked.

[–] Deepus@lemm.ee 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Oh fair, i didnt know that. But still, fuck Microsoft.

[–] RangerJosey@lemmy.ml 68 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Stealing from thieves isn't a crime.

Especially not when China turns around and Robin Hoods it back to the world.

Just saying.

[–] LappingDog@sh.itjust.works 11 points 22 hours ago

Making R1 open source really makes it such a big FU to all the grifters asking for billions for AI in the us. Especially funny because high-flyer is a hedge fund firm themselves. The ai race should only be determined by what you do with it, not protecting how much IP you hoovered up and are now trying to cry about it being copied by others.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 30 points 1 day ago

China really did one on our oligarchs haha

Beautiful

These parasites expect me to side with them?

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago

What data? they one OpenAI illegally obtained first?!

[–] aaron@lemm.ee 245 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] leisesprecher@feddit.org 38 points 2 days ago

An irony curtain.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 62 points 1 day ago (4 children)

“You can’t steal that public data! We stole it first!”

And considering that’s exactly what Microsoft did to Apple with point and click, what irony!

[–] Oaksey@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

They didn’t steal it from Smith & Wesson?

[–] FartVentriloquist69@sh.itjust.works 33 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They both stole point and click from Xerox if my memory serves me correctly

[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Apple did pay Xerox for it if I'm remembering right

[–] The_Decryptor@aussie.zone 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Yep, Apple paid with shares (More specifically, the right to buy $1 million dollars worth at the initial share price) which, according to a share calculator I just tried, would be worth nearly $328 million these days, I wonder if Xerox kept them or offloaded them early.

Considering Xerox was utterly uninterested in any of the tech they had, it's worked out well.

[–] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

yeah xerox invented the GUI and mouse

[–] jadelord@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Actually, it was invented by Douglas Engelbart in Stanford in the 60s

https://dougengelbart.org/content/view/162/000/

Xerox (re)made it for the PC in the 80s.

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[–] konomikitten@lemmy.blahaj.zone 151 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] daddy32@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lol its like fucking lavrov from fucking russia screaming "this is against international law" when Europe froze their assets.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 16 points 1 day ago

Bro... US reaction here is so pathetic...

The behavior is indicative of a bigger issue. They really do think only they are allowed to cheat and steal to win lol

[–] vk6flab@lemmy.radio 171 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What, you mean like Microsoft, uh, OpenAI did?

[–] latenightnoir@lemmy.world 120 points 2 days ago

Yep, NOW it's a problem, though! Because it's someone else doing the same thing, someone who isn't part of the human centipede starting at Trump's colon.

[–] Shortstack@reddthat.com 29 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What’s the game plan if they did?

Trade restrictions?

China already proved those did fuck all to stop them from developing their own model.

Ducking knew this ai bubble would burst sooner or later, just glad we can finally get on with it now.

[–] Quexotic@infosec.pub 4 points 22 hours ago

I ducking knew it too, I've been a long for the ride though. The models still do have some niche applications where they're actually useful.

This whole thing with OpenAI and Microsoft whinging about fair play is truly laughable though. What clowns.

As a side note, it took a few tries to write ducking, my keyboard kept correcting it to fucking. We're definitely 2 different people. Lol.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 19 hours ago
  1. Name the company involved a military asset
  2. Forbid US companies from hosting the models
  3. Pressure foreign companies to not work with them
[–] demizerone@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Somebody better call the WAHMBULANCE!

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Surely they'd like some cheese to go with that whine?

[–] MolecularCactus1324@lemmy.world 117 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You mean they ripped off the copyrighted material that OpenAI ripped off?

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 62 points 2 days ago

we stole it fair and square

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 35 points 2 days ago (15 children)

Are they worried that deepsink too stuff written by others, mixed it up, and repackaged it as it's own?

Well, yeah, that's all AI is. An expensive weighted pachinko machine, that uses human made content, and remixes it.

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[–] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 71 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It’s no crime to steal from a thief.

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[–] Erasmus@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

If I stole from the thief, is it really stealing?

  • some Philosopher probably
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[–] misk@sopuli.xyz 40 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I’m sure now that OpenAI accuses DeepSeek of stealing they will now prove that they have rights to things that are being stolen, right? XD

[–] tux0r@feddit.org 26 points 2 days ago

So that means that Microsoft will pay compensation to us, right?

[–] ChowJeeBai@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago

When you can't beat em, sue em. It's the American way.

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