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Signal has announced new functionality in its upcoming beta releases, allowing users to transfer messages and media when linking their primary Signal device to a new desktop or iPad. This feature offers the choice to carry over chats and the last 45 days of media, or to start fresh with only new messages.

The transfer process is end-to-end encrypted, ensuring privacy. It involves creating a compressed, encrypted archive of your Signal data, which is then sent to the new device via Signal's servers. Despite handling the transfer, the servers cannot access the message content due to the encryption.

With the introduction of a cross-platform archive format, Signal is also exploring additional tools for message transfer to new devices or restoration in case of device loss or damage. Users can begin testing this feature soon, with a wider rollout expected in the coming weeks.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

So is there a signal alternative that is fully open source and not under control of one single company?

Bett as I understand it, it's still from a company and still locked to the whims of a CEO and I'm done with that.

What's the best alternative?

[–] ozymandias117@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

Matrix as a protocol, and the official client is Element.

I'm baffled Signal didn't support transferring chats... I thought it was supposed to be easier than Matrix

[–] ThomasCrappersGhost@feddit.uk 1 points 12 hours ago

Unfortunately it seems like some people think that that is neutral.

[–] baatliwala@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Finally I can transfer my one and only chat to my PC

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

I know right. I wish more people used it. It's nice and simple. No fuss in the way. And especially now with chat transfers. Should be Gucci.

[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thanks, I love Signal, but can we get Android tablet linking?

Molly has it.

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (3 children)

What's Molly in this context?

[–] hogmomma@lemmy.world 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

See the other response to justify that part, heh.

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

That's why "in this context"!

[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

https://molly.im/

A hardened Signal fork that works with Signal's servers and adds features I like that Signal doesn't support.

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I heard signal dislikes forks using its server, did molly get approval to do so, or is this based on generosity until signal can ban them?

[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 2 points 12 hours ago

I heard that too...1ish years ago and Molly still seems to work okay. I would assume by now that Signal knows they exist, so hopefully they'll keep playing nice.

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago

TIL. Thank you!

[–] noisefree@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

This may be out of date, since it's been a while since I last tested this, but: will Signal on desktop still store media in an easily accessible folder where the only security is the use of random strings to identify each individual media file with the file type extension deleted? So, for example, if you've had the desktop Signal client synced with your account for a period of time and have running conversations that include sensitive media, that media can be accessed and viewed without even opening the desktop app (which also, last I tested it, lacks most of the locking/security mechanisms found in the phone versions of Signal).

Most media viewers can open the files without the need for adding the file extension to the end of the filename, albeit you would be browsing the files in a pseudorandom fashion if you didn't try to sort by date or size.

[–] Macros@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

It is quite a bit out of date luckily. Signal-Desktop already stores data encrypted for quite a while. However it used to store the decryption key right alongside it. Recently (a few month ago) Signal switched to storing the key within the systems keystore, greatly improving security. Also causing a flood of users complaining that the can't just copy their .config to a new desktop and retain their chat history. This may have prompted the release of this new feature :)

[–] noisefree@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

Good to know!

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 2 points 14 hours ago

😂and 98% do upvote this old news, it is crazy

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 112 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Holy shit no way, basic functionality needed at absolutely all times, in my signal? More likely than you think!

Kudos to the Devs! Maybe time to give this app another shot!

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[–] vollkorntomate@infosec.pub 96 points 1 day ago (8 children)

I’m still waiting for the day that I can make a full backup of my chats and save it on an external hard drive so that I won’t lose all of my message history when I lose my phone.

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I still wait for an option to officially use signal without having to have a proprietary operating system running 😆🥲

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 1 points 13 hours ago

And I am waiting for a way to use Signal without it ever touching a smartphone) Right now I have a Graphene phone so I can trust it (so Molly works), but before that my phone (like most phones) did not support any degoogled OS. While the laptop (like most laptops can) was running Linux easily. Yet, you have to either use an Android VM or a frustrating command-line client to register!

[–] SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org 36 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You can already do it. I have Signal create daily backups, sync it to my NAS using Syncthing with versioning enabled.

[–] Joelk111@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

Oh fucking shit, setting this up today

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 2 points 15 hours ago

Yeah I've been doing this

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