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[–] linkhidalgogato@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

damn lots of libs here on some serious copium

[–] erin@lemmy.sidh.bzh 1 points 1 year ago

"Never sell the bear's skin before one has killed the beast."

[–] atlasraven31@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Last I read, Ukraine was switching to new and better weapons and Russia was resorting to older tanks and pensioners. I've never heard of anyone winning a war with last centuries' weapons.

[–] tallwookie@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

the ukrainian war is as much a war for freedom from russian influence (for ukraine) as it is a proxy war against russia (for america/the west).

[–] Hillock@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think that article is mostly clickbait. So much speculation going on and the comparison to Afghanistan is such a stretch. There is no sign of war exhaustion in the west. People might lose interest in following the conflict because it slowed down but Russia is such a big enemy in the minds of people that sending more equipment can go on for decades before voices grow to stop it.

And the fear that any peace that Putin can celebrate as a victory would only be a temporary peace is still very imbedded into the mind of many Europeans.

[–] Chup@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The title is total clickbait but the article is more thinking of theoretical options of events to come. E.g. how the end(s) of the war could look like.

Petr Pavel, Czech president & former general, already stated that at the end of the year, the window of opportunity might be closed for Ukraine and Ukraine should try to gain as much ground as possible before the winter. Not because of the weather, but because of elections coming in Russia, the USA and Ukraine in 2024.

https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-has-window-of-opportunity-this-year-to-take-back-territory-from-russia-before-war-fatigue-says-czech-republics-president-12918975

Not even talking about the possible election outcomes and possible consequences for the war, already the election campaigns with their goals, promises, propaganda and unique selling points might have influence on the events and further planning. Just imagine Trump (or successor) starting a new mesh of lies and getting supported by Putin, which will get soaked up by their followers and complicate support by the USA - the largest military supporter of Ukraine so far.

[–] APassenger@lemmy.one -1 points 1 year ago

Trump can fuck off to jail. I'd like to see him tried for treason.

DeSantis has shown he's a non-starter.

At this point they're hoping for a dark horse pro-retreat candidate.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Pppffff in what world is resisting an invasion by a much larger country with a larger military for over a year, a defeat? Even if Ukraine settles, they won this war.