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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/24657192

Summary

In a virtual speech at the World Economic Forum, Trump suggested Canada could become a U.S. state to avoid his proposed tariffs on imports.

The remark elicited gasps from the audience.

Trump claimed the U.S. does not need Canadian lumber, energy, or vehicles, vastly overstating the trade deficit between the two nations.

He reiterated his intention to impose tariffs, potentially as high as 25%, on imports from Canada and Mexico starting February 1.

Economists warn such tariffs would raise prices for U.S. consumers.

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[–] Adulated_Aspersion@lemmy.world 3 points 50 minutes ago

Just. You know....

become a state.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 57 minutes ago) (1 children)

Four more years of this shit. But oh well, it's worth it if it spared a few people of superior moral integrity from compromising their principles to vote for Harris when she didn't measure up to their requirements and the Democrats didn't run a good enough campaign and besides it was kind of cold that day and it would have meant putting on pants.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 minutes ago

Why are you okay with your fellow Americans being unrepresented in the voting booth?

Are you working to replace First past the post voting in your state? People should be free to vote for those they deem best, while still counting their vote against those they don't want in office.

Do you support democracy? Or do you get off on telling people how to vote?

[–] sircac@lemmy.world 9 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Why people keep listening to what that being says? Just respond to his actions, anthing else is useless...

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 8 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I somewhat agree with your point but after years of him saying he would do fucked up shit and then him doing a lot of it, it helps to be prepared for his intentions as they manifest into actions in many cases.

[–] sircac@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

My point goes mostly to international leaders or representative people that over-react to his words and then the media look to amplify it by doing it a “new”: part of his strategy is this shit bombing upon saturation, so it buffers a space of allowance of shit actions in the public opinion that otherwise would have suffered of even more rejection if done without this probing, confusing and dragging resources in the meantime to attend this… which in the end will not matter how are they answered, prevented or reacted, he will push anyway in that direction, so I would give zero weight to all that diarrhea, shit will come willing it or not since he has the power to do it, accepting any kind of conversation with someone like that is playing a rigged game and lose terrain… why accept his ability to an exchange of opinion in the first place? why respond/listen to him? He behaves like the strongest bully, the corresponding treatment is required… join on isolating him, he will not make it easy though. This is my opinion…

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 17 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

There is no actual fentanyl or immigration basis for tariffs on Canada. Just submit to less representation than California, and help absorb large US debt with little in return for it.

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 7 points 5 hours ago

There's no basis for tariffs on Mexico either.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 30 points 11 hours ago (4 children)

Us citizens pay tariff this doesn't hurt Canadians. They should call bluff and say do 30%.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 1 points 20 minutes ago

Canada will absorb most of the extra cost if we want to sell product to the US.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

It potentially reduces exports from Canada to the US, hurting our economy. Nobody wins

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 6 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Canada imports more from USA than it exports to USA. A trade war that decreases exports would hurt USA more than Canada.

The largest exports from USA to Canada are cars and trucks. (Finished products) The largest exports from Canada to USA are minerals, fuels and pulp. (Raw material)

This puts USA at a disadvantage in a tariff game, because it's a lot easier for Canada to replace American cars with Asian or European cars, than it is for USA to replace the variety of ressources that Canada provides

It's also a lot easier for Canada to find other customers for raw materials than it is to sell American cars on other continents.

[–] Banana@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago

We have a lot of resources. Ya our shit will get more expensive, but he's gonna fuck his own country doing this. Canada will survive.

[–] refalo@programming.dev 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

My understanding is that tariffs in general can apply to both imports and exports, on either side.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 4 points 4 hours ago

Well according to wiki you are right. I was on ever taught tax on imports in school. Taxing exports only works of there is one possible vendor and if there is not then the competition will just has to charge slightly less while expanding production.

Imagine if China , EU, and or japan be like here is 10% discount. Or better yet Trade alliance among countries who Trump charges on exports would be hillarious.

[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 64 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (6 children)

As a Canadian, fuck you Trump. Canada will never be a US state. Not sorry.

[–] chuymatt@startrek.website 1 points 1 hour ago

Its truedeau. (Its a pun)

[–] Lianodel@ttrpg.network 2 points 4 hours ago

It's bad enough being one of those states now, and I'm in one of the good ones.

[–] NeuronautML@lemmy.ml 7 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

As they say in Canada, they're not having Nunavut these hosers, eh ?

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 27 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

If it goes down I'm just gonna scoot up north and fight on your side for Canadian citizenship.

[–] Banana@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I wonder how many would lol

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

A lot more than the Rs would think.

[–] Banana@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I hope so! I live pretty close to the border so this is all a bit surreal

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] Banana@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago

Solidarity forever, fellow worker ✊️

[–] mjhelto@lemm.ee 16 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

That's a really good idea! I'm about 5-8 hours from the Canadian boarder but I will not fight for a fascist country. I'll either join the other side or join a resistance here.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 11 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I'm about 4 hrs from the border but could easily make that shorter in an emergency! Combat veteran as well.

[–] mjhelto@lemm.ee 8 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

I'm a vet also. Never felt the need for a gun as a civilian, but November changed that for me.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago

I got a couple last summer because I knew it'd be a shitstorm regardless of who won.

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[–] ToadOfHypnosis@lemmy.ml 60 points 15 hours ago (21 children)

Trump seems to have the goal of destroying the US from all I can tell. Our economy and power are so dependent on our connections to the rest of the world and he is burning them all down. The US dollar gets replaced as the fiat currency we are wholly fucked and this dumb shit is how that happens.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 12 points 9 hours ago
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