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Rep. Dan Crenshaw criticized Apple Maps for not renaming the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America, as mandated by Trump’s recent executive order titled “Restoring Names that Honor American Greatness.”

Crenshaw’s complaint reflects broader conservative frustration, as tech platforms and the global community continue to use the original name.

Critics compare the move to past nationalist gestures like renaming french fries "freedom fries," accusing conservatives of embracing identity politics and culture wars despite their political dominance.

The name change is unlikely to gain international traction.

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[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 93 points 1 day ago (11 children)

Anyone else remember "freedom fries"? That's what we were supposed to call french fries when conservatives were upset that the French were not supporting the US invasion of Iraq.

[–] sparky@lemmy.federate.cc 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It’s even stupider when you remember that fries are from Belgium.

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 day ago

And that "frenched" is the way they're cut, not that they have anything to do with the country.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

But I don’t remember our government wasting time and official action on that. It was just a “popular” movement supported by propaganda

[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 1 day ago

Yeah, it started in WWI.

https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/36579/did-the-u-s-government-try-to-rename-hamburgers-to-liberty-sandwiches

From a 1976 interview with German-American T. Max Kniesche, who moved to San Francisco in 1907, and worked in restaurants and cafes there:

Teiser: What was it like in San Francisco for Germans during the first world war? You were working at a clearly German restaurant. [...]

Teiser: Did you change the kind of food that you served, or the decorations?

Kniesche: Well, the hamburger steak was Liberty Steak. French-fried potatoes were Liberty Potatoes. [laughter] We called it Liberty, but the liberty wasn't there. Anyhow, everything went to "Liberty." [laughter]

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[–] callouscomic@lemm.ee 176 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Ahem. Umm, conservatives are angry that others are not calling something what THEY want it to be called?

Hmm. So.... I just feel like... perhaps, there's a similarity here. Some people... want to be referred to a specific way... but usually conservatives have a problem with that.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 54 points 2 days ago (11 children)

How about the rest of the world rename it to the "Gulf of Snowflakes" and see what America does

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[–] AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works 278 points 2 days ago (7 children)

For people always calling the others "snowflakes" and "easily triggered", they sure do have a thin skin.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 day ago

Maybe, but this is all a distraction from the actions that matter. They don't want to debate the anti-trans stuff or the immigration stuff, which is objectively bad. They want to debate people not going with a made up name for a thing, which has no objectivity. The longer they can argue about this the less time there is to discuss anything important.

Its not just being thin skinned. It's a strategy of distraction.

[–] minibyte@sh.itjust.works 129 points 2 days ago (10 children)

“I’m sorry, I didn’t realize you were so sensitive” is my response to these types IRL.

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[–] bobagem@sh.itjust.works 34 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Who's gonna tell him?

The earliest known use of the name America dates to April 25, 1507, when it was applied to what is now known as South America. It is generally accepted that the name derives from Amerigo Vespucci, the Italian explorer, who explored the new continents in the following years on behalf of Spain and Portugal, with the name given by German cartographer Martin Waldseemüller.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naming_of_the_Americas

[–] GroundedGator@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Brazilians also Americans.

Venezuelans also Americans.

Canadians? Yep Americans

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[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

So it should really be "Ameriga"?

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Use "Oblast" instead of state for every single red shithole.

[–] graphene@lemm.ee 1 points 20 hours ago

Autonomna Pokrajina Texas

[–] Rhllor@feddit.org 6 points 1 day ago

This should include the beautiful Oblast of New America if we are anyway in the process of renaming things.

[–] withabeard@lemmy.world 192 points 2 days ago (14 children)

They want an efficient government not wasting time and resources on unnecessary things ...

They get a government crying over the name of a body of water.

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[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 61 points 2 days ago (9 children)

Wait, that really happened? I thought the gulf of Mexico renamed shit was just memeing. Google maps still shows the proper name instead of the tantrum name.

[–] homura1650@lemmy.world 47 points 1 day ago (10 children)

The president ordered it. There is no legal mechanism to compel private companies to use the new name.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/restoring-names-that-honor-american-greatness/

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 day ago

There is no legal mechanism to compel private companies to use the new name.

There is also no legal mechanism to require any other country on the planet to pay attention to Trump's stupid and pointless attempt at renaming it.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I thought the gulf of Mexico renamed shit was just memeing.

I have a feeling we're going to be seeing a lot of "I didn't think he would really do ____" in the coming weeks and months.

I was under no such illusions. He has no one to stop him this time around.

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[–] ErrorCode@lemmy.world 53 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Should list it as "Gulf of Cuba" and watch their heads explode.

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[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Sorry if this has been asked elsewhere, but who even has the legal right to rename the gulf? It doesn't belong to USA, right? So we can't just rename it, right? If we did, everybody else in the world would keep calling it The Gulf of Mexico, right?

[–] vin@lemmynsfw.com 15 points 1 day ago

Every sovereign state can publish maps require everyone to use it as reference for further publication in its own territory. Hence you'll see different maps on Google for different regions. There's a UN committee to coordinate these and also to publish international water area names.

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[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 75 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Apple is not beholden to executive orders... No private company is.

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 25 points 1 day ago (6 children)

With all the other bullshit, I missed this EO being made. Jesus fuck.

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[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 102 points 2 days ago

Are eggs cheaper because of this?

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 99 points 2 days ago (1 children)

How does this lower the cost of housing?

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[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago

There is no gulf with that name anywhere in the world.

You'll have to go back and figure out what you mean. Feel free to let us know once you find the name of a real gulf.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 80 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Real question here: It is titled “Restoring Names that Honor American Greatness.” - Has the Gulf of Mexico ever been named "Gulf of America" in any reasonable historical context, or is this just the usual made-up "fact" from Donald the Jester?

[–] AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works 80 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (22 children)

Actually, the Gulf of Mexico appears called like that around 1500 AD, when the United States were not even an idea of a nation. So no, it never was called like that because it was named centuries before the US existed.

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