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[-] admiralteal@kbin.social 129 points 8 months ago

This joke is backwards.

YouTube is the one trying to kill an infinitely adaptable adversary they stand no chance of defeating.

[-] takeda@lemmy.world 77 points 8 months ago

They are "remodulating" chrome. If you continue to use chrome and any browser based on it, you might soon realize that adblocking doesn't work anymore, because filtering support was neutered and you no longer will be able to switch to Firefox, as they will outright block it as it allows to block ads.

It is important to use Firefox now to make sure sites won't start blocking it.

[-] roguetrick@kbin.social 27 points 8 months ago

If YouTube ever blocks Firefox alphabet will finally be broken up.

[-] Serinus@lemmy.ml 12 points 8 months ago

Wanna bet? There are ways to frog in a boiling pot this. And chrome isn't the only browser that will support blocking Firefox. (They'll argue Chromium is not Google, only Chrome).

[-] roguetrick@kbin.social 22 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

That's a fig leaf. US courts might agree with that argument, but European courts will see that it all is monopolistic practices to support their ad business. YouTube itself can't survive market dominance without it's preferential deals with it's parent company's hosting and ads. Ask viemo how using cloud hosting to serve video and third party ads works out. It would be suicidal. The truth is they ALREADY should be broken up.

[-] HardlightCereal@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

We're talking about computers, not leaves

[-] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 8 points 8 months ago
[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 8 months ago

computer TURN OFF THAT NOISE

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[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

Sounds like websites should subsidize firefox users by serving MORE ads to chrome users.

[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 19 points 8 months ago

If you've seen Star Trek, you know that the humans are the real infinitely adaptable adversary that the Borg stand no chance of defeating

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 2 points 8 months ago

Sounds like a human wrote that.

[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 months ago

God damn right

[-] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 13 points 8 months ago

You say that but Google is working on shoving a drm scheme into Chrome that'd keep you from being able to modify sites (e.g. ad and script blocking) and, due to the sheer market share that chrome and Chromium-based browsers have, Google can kinda just do whatever they want. Of course, it's ultimately up to the site owners to implement it, but you know probably 90% of sites will use it.

[-] sirblastalot@ttrpg.network 2 points 8 months ago

Thank god for firefox!

[-] negativenull@lemm.ee 11 points 8 months ago

Reverse the polarity, Geordi!

[-] MJBrune@beehaw.org 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

You say that like the federation doesn't win every single time. Humans are more adaptable than the borg.

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[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 7 points 8 months ago

pointing_spidermen.jpg

[-] Fredy1422@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago

You mean "The Borg" figuratively

[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 33 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Google ad: resistance is futile .....

laser blasts Google ad ...

Another Google ad appears: ... Resistance is futile

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 22 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The Borg still adapt even if they use a randomly changing sequence, which means even in the future of Star Trek, they haven't actually found a way for computers to generate real random numbers and it's just an algorithm to simulate it, which of course the Borg can extrapolate from.

You'd think they'd have quantum mechanics on lock by the 24th century.

[-] marcos@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

I would expect their random numbers to have at least 128 bits of entropy. Evidently, they have 2 or 3.

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 8 months ago

for all their post-scarcity they ran out of entropy bits in the 2200's and now they have strict rationing

[-] Damage@startrek.website 3 points 8 months ago

You guys are killing me

[-] Cringe2793@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Don't the borg only adapt after they get shot? They need to experience it to adapt.

[-] nicoweio@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

That's an interesting idea, although I'd say in that case they just "meta-adapted", so that even truly random variations in the same degrees of freedom would not have helped.

[-] Paddzr@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago

Somehow I've been fine? Is my setup the chosen one or it just hasn't come down to me/my region yet?

[-] professor@lemmy.world 31 points 8 months ago

It’s sent out in waves.

First escalation, you just a warning with an “X” that you can close.

Second escalation, you will be the same warning but without the “X”. You can of course just block the element.

Third escalation, you get the “3 videos” message. After this, YouTube no longer serves you videos. You can get around this by logging out and using incognito mode on Firefox. There are other ways too if you go browse some ublock origin communities.

[-] Stampela@startrek.website 5 points 8 months ago

I’ve been wondering about that too, after seeing this post I watched a 10+ minutes video and it was fine, but I’m not… on an average setup.

So for the moment I’m just going to suppose it’s not active for me yet. Thanks.

[-] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

I don't log in when I watch YouTube on Firefox. It remembers your watched videos anyways so why bother? I can't leave comments or like anything, but "oh no"

I wonder if that's why I haven't seen any about using ublock.

[-] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 months ago

Do you know if there's a way to be logged into gmail (haven't been able to extract myself from google yet) and logged out of youtube while on firefox? I thought they'd be separate but I tried logging out of yt and found my gmail had been logged out as well.

I've just been using private windows recently but I figure FF probably has the capability to keep your log in instances between tabs separate if you tell it to, I just don't know how.

[-] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago

I haven't gotten away from Gmail yet either.
I use a email app for that. My Firefox just hasn't ever seen me log into anything Google, so it doesn't even try when I visit YouTube. I don't even use private windows for YouTube.

[-] Weslee@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

I just started to get it yesterday

[-] nowitsabby@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 8 months ago

Piped + Libredirect on firefox

[-] Stamets@startrek.website 14 points 8 months ago

Piped seems to work for most Youtube videos on Firefox, at least that I've found. My issue is that I have a youtube addon that allows me to double the volume and it doesn't work on piped.

[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

What’s the downside to switching to piped?

[-] Stamets@startrek.website 3 points 8 months ago

There are fewer features than there are on YouTube. That's about it. Otherwise it runs better in every regard.

The only reason I use YouTube proper is because of add-ons I already have that make my YouTube experience better.

[-] Schm1tty@kbin.social 10 points 8 months ago

I self host an invidious instance and I haven't noticed any interruptions so far

[-] viking@infosec.pub 2 points 8 months ago

Can you host them locally, if they are only meant for yourself?

[-] 1984@lemmy.today 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Yeah you can, a friend of mine was doing that. But he got nervous since Google is going after those also.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 8 points 8 months ago

Use third party apps and services

[-] Haphazard9479@lemm.ee 8 points 8 months ago

Use NewPipe

[-] andthenthreemore@startrek.website 5 points 8 months ago

Revanced is still working.

[-] kingshrubb@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Is uBlock going to keep fighting this? Will Google sue uBlock and crush them with it's monopolistic power?

[-] themusicgod1@startrek.website 4 points 8 months ago

just tried watching a video ublock still working here, you gotta select the popover though

[-] FrostKing@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Yeah speaking of, is there a way to disable the pop-up on YouTube yet? I use Firefox and u block

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