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Can they rush in after the first two words, before you say "not"? Can they enter if they stuff their ears before they hear the final word?

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[–] Tedesche@lemmy.world 19 points 15 hours ago (6 children)

A lot of people here are telling you that the answer is 'no' because the vampires must respect your true intent or rely on trickery to get you to willfully invite them in.

But the real reason is 'no' because vampires aren't real.

[–] 0xb@lemm.ee 11 points 14 hours ago

Sure Mr Suspiciously Pale Human, whatever you say, you still can't come in even if vampires don't exist.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 3 points 14 hours ago

But there's one asking to enter so it turns out you're wrong about that.

If someone pulls a gun on me I can't declare "bullets aren't real" and expect to endure being shot without taking harm.

I guess we could ask OP to try saying "you may not" and see whether he survives to post confirmation that it worked?

[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 2 points 14 hours ago

Okay can I come in then?

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

The only correct answer.

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[–] FrozenTrout@lemmy.world 10 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

If you live alone and vampire shows up at your door with a gun and shoots you dead, could it then enter the house

[–] YungOnions@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

No, because you didn't grant it consent to enter prior to death.

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[–] Computerchairgeneral@fedia.io 18 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

No, vampires usually leave that sort of "exact words" trickery to faeries and genies.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 4 points 14 hours ago

And in their case I think they'd let you finish speaking because they relish the challenge more than they want to simply squish you.

[–] leaky_shower_thought@feddit.nl 8 points 14 hours ago (4 children)

i guess not.

hollywood says vampires have to sparkly shine first.

some vamp lore says it is your invitation that counts and not the permission part.

some cultures need visitors to declare themselves human when knocking at your door.

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[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 16 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I would say, no, because the same magic rule prompting the vampire to ask permission in the first place also requires the answer to be complete. Otherwise, why bother? They would dart inside even before you had a chance to say "you" with the excuse that since you were taking too long you probably were okay with it.

[–] vaguerant@fedia.io 10 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I wonder if the magic rule understands double negatives. If you tell a vampire "You ain't never coming in here," can they enter? What about sarcasm? "Oh yeah, I'm definitely inviting you in."

[–] Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago

I suppose it depends on if you can write a fun story around either one. Since every rule about vampires that sticks basically only has one thing in common, the writing in which it was featured was popular. If what you write around it isn't very good, then no, I guess retroactively that isn't how vampires work. But if it becomes popular and part of peoples canon in the future, then yes, that is exactly how vampires work, now.

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 17 points 17 hours ago

"You mayn't."

[–] Ioughttamow@fedia.io 10 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

A vampire mesmerizing a victim into allowing entry always felt like cheating to me

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago

Yes, that would be cheating.

[–] Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

Isn't that the entire reason behind the rule, so that they could write a way for the vampires to circumvent it. They established a fake rule that never used to exist and then proceeded to prop it up over and over until the reader believed it to be law, and then when they least expected it, it was dashed to pieces in an instant.

Of course it's cheating, but cheating at what exactly? Cheating at a rule that never even used to exist, was written specifically to later be broken in that very same book. It's like any puzzle design in writing, like murder mystery, they usually create the puzzle backwards by thinking of fun solutions to problems they could then create to lead there.

[–] big_fat_fluffy@leminal.space 7 points 15 hours ago

The statement is more of a ritual appliance. I think the intent is key.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 8 points 16 hours ago

They're fast, faster than you can imagine, don't look away and don't blink. Blink and you're dead.

[–] watson387@sopuli.xyz 8 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
[–] teletext@reddthat.com 12 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

That's quite impolite, isn't it?

[–] Please_Do_Not@lemm.ee 16 points 17 hours ago

"Vell, you didn't have to be rude about it."

[–] Vanth@reddthat.com 5 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Let's not victim blame the vampire prey now. They do not owe a blood-sucking villain their time nor respect.

Thats why you summon Abraham Lincoln, the Vampire Hunter

[–] Toes@ani.social 2 points 13 hours ago

This is vampire propaganda.

You're already at their mercy if they are talking to you.

[–] NineMileTower@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago

Yes. This happened to my cousin Ronny. He's undead now.

[–] ClanOfTheOcho@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

Similar question, what if you retract the invite after they've already entered the home?

[–] charade_you_are@sh.itjust.works 3 points 17 hours ago

First of all, why would you fuck around with a vampire? Second, don't try a not joke with them. I think if you wait to long between the "you may" and the "....NOT!", you're fucked.

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