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good work Americans, keep it up.

don't stop until the rate is 0%. paying workers is the employer's job.

The worst part is when you go to a place you need to pay before service is rendered.

If I go to the bagel shop and get a dozen I pay before I pick them out. TIP? Are you kidding me, what what, you have not served me yet.

A tip is to reward good service at a sit down place. I still think it shouldn't be and if we have it, it should be back to the 5-10% like most countries that have tipping.

But if you ask for a tip before you render service i get a little angry.

You flew too close to the sun, you insufferable, greedy pieces of shit. Pay your workers a livable wage yourself, we're done subsidizing your labor abuses.

Tipping was essentially an American invention to not pay black people. (Who were the majority of service industry workers in the late 1800s/1900s?)

Also keeps that servant/master power dynamic.

Tipping culture and systems need to die off. Sadly, because they often get paid more via tips than they would by increased hourly wages, tipped employees are often against such reforms.

And, to be fair, for most restaurants, it would be really hard for them to pay their wait staff appropriate wages in many cities where rent is extremely high and the cost of the food products they use to create their meals is rising as well. It’s not a simple matter of “the employer should pay their employees’ wages, not the customer.” The industry is built around tipping, and that’s not something that can be changed overnight.

Still, I firmly believe it needs to happen. And if that means increasing the price of restaurant meals, so be it. I suspect people eat out too much these days anyway and should learn to cook themselves. I used to eat out a lot until I did some calculations and realized I was spending way too much on it. Since learning to cook, I’ve saved a lot of money and now prefer my own cooking to a lot of restaurant fare out there (although not the really good stuff—I’m no professional chef).

"Corporations and Restaurants refuse to pay waiters a living wage, subsidizing their salaries with their already drawn thin customers' depressed wages."

There, I fixed the title so it identifies the actual problem rather than causing divisions in the working classes.

I've been tipping more, but that's mostly because I live in a relatively low-income area and I know people around here are cheap/frugal. I've also worked in food service before (though not deliveries) and I know just how awful it can be. I hope I can be the one delivery that allows the person to call it an early night and spend time with their family. Shit like that.

That being said, I don't know what kind of notes the drivers get when they see my order pop up, but I will say that 99% of the time, my service has been impeccable. They know.

HOWEVER, don't take this as approval for tipping culture. I hate it and would love to do away with it. Unfortunately, I understand that these people depend on my tips for a living wage and that sucks.

Good! Tipping culture is NOT generosity; it is a symptom of an exploitative economic model that values capital accumulation more than basic human dignity.

Blame the companies, not the customers. I bought a $12 water at a concert and the attendant acted offended I didn't tip. Don't get mad at me.

Stop tipping culture. Pay your workers.

I swear when I was a kid in the 90s 5-10% was standard.

Anyone else remember this?

You can bet there was some more tolerance for it when there was some guilt for office workers staying at home while service roles had to stay on site during the height of covid.

The fact that so many point of sale make it a default thing to put it directly out there for someone to tip before any service is done and with that decision in view of everyone around doesn't sit well either

You all are nuts for how much you tip these days.

It used to be you tipped waiters at restaurants (not register jockeys), your hairdresser, the valet guy, the hotel maid, and maaaaybe the delivery guys if they went above and beyond hooked stuff up and you made them carry something heavy up 10 flights of stairs. That’s it.

The waiter got 10-15% for good service. I dunno about hairdressers but I think around 10% was normal. Everyone else got a few bucks to a fiver (unless you drove a Lamborghini)

Tipping landlords - are you kidding me? Tipping when you weren’t served? - gtfo Do you do it because you’re afraid of conflict? You’re doing it to yourselves - it was bad enough before and you all are just feeding the beast.

Tipping is beyond fucked up.

Guy at home depot loading your heavy ass lumber into the truck? No tip.

Some dipshit behind the counter punching numbers on a screen, you better believe that's a tippin!

STOP TIPPING unless somone is actually serving you!! Ask yourself, is this service closer to the guy loading the lumber, or the gas station attendant sitting behind the register?

A gas station that I go to added a tips jar a few years ago. Wtf. You aren't doing shit but tapping on a sale screen. I really like the people working there. They remember me and we chat. But I'm not tipping you because I bought a Gatorade and you rang it up.

On the other hand, I dated someone from another country who didn't live a tipping culture. When she covered a meal and didn't tip, I'd leave cash because I know it's expected. I was embarrassed that she didn't agree with our custom.

Tipping needs to go. Just pay people a fair wage.

I mean...

2016, I went to a bar and got a 16oz beer, a burger and a basket of fresh fries for $18. I was happy to throw $3-5 on that for decent service, hell even subparbaervice.

Now it's an 11oz beer being sold as a 12oz beer for $9 and a $22 burger, add fries for $4

If I get 2 beers, it's $50 with a tip.

The fuck?

Worker advocacy groups are pushing to eliminate the tipped-wage system, while the restaurant industry warns these shifts hurt business and employees.

Imagine having to pay a living wage, burger prices would explode!

Except, for example, there is a 12.82€ minimum wage in Germany and a hamburger ist still around 2€ at Burger King (about 1:1 in $ atm). Food and work safety are stricter too iirc. Workers also have 20 days of vacation minimum (if your work full-time), 60h weeks maximum @ 40h on average, as well as extra pay for night, weekend and holiday shifts. And health insurance is about 200 a month at that income I think.

Edit: Oh, and of course still 5-20% tipps.

You are getting screwed over completely. Anyone who claims otherwise is your enemy.

Tip fatigue is real. When every interaction with a touchpad asks you for a little something extra on top of inflation, it gets old fast.

I tip 20% when I get served by a person. I typically add 10-15% on carryout, for their troubles.

A brewery I go to weekly for dinner with friends recently changed the tip buttons on the pad to 18, 22, and 25. I like them a lot, but the place is pricey, and you have to go to the bar to order. They get the 18% button now. (I could do the math, but... beer)

American tipping culture is so pervasive, anerican POS software companies don't even bother localising POS systems to remove the tipping step.

Like, why is this button here, practically no one is ever going to use it.

If we leave a tip, it's in a tip-jar almost without exception, in cash. It's where you put your poop change or a couple of gold coins ($1 or $2)

(Australia)

Grumble

American tip culture is fucked, and it has been for a very long time. Once gas stations started begging for a tip on my soft drinks I figured it was about time to rip the band aid off.

Unfortunately tipping less means wait staff are gonna get fucked -- no way to soften that. We need to get to a place where their livelihoods aren't dependent on generosity.

People tip more than 10%?

Good, the only way people will get a living wage is if the people stand with them and refuse to tip

Door dasher in Australia here: after about 500 completed orders, I can say I've been tipped once, by this old lady like A$5.

Tipping is stupid. I'm not incentivised to do anything better. The app would just give everyone crappier orders if everyone tipped.

This is only going to get worse as late-stage capitalism continues to wring every last penny it can out of the working class.