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jointhefediverse.net seems to be a commonly linked resource for directing people to join the Fediverse.

Curiously, it does not list Lemmy under the list of Reddit alternatives. Their GitHub README explains why.

Previous relevant discussion: https://lemmy.ml/post/78808

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[–] clot27@lemm.ee 4 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

Valid concern imo, Dev's are just dickheads

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[–] Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me 107 points 22 hours ago (6 children)

That feels like complaints about lemmy.ml specifically more than Lemmy as a software. There's a few instances that defederate lemmy.ml out there.

[–] Azzu@lemm.ee 38 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

They can do whatever shit they want with their instance and believe whatever they want. The software they make provably doesn't have any more biases than any other software. As long as that's the case, I'm fine.

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[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 85 points 22 hours ago (37 children)

Lemmy was removed due to:

  • reports of how the developers handle certain types of content (post removed, view an incomplete archive)
  • the behavior of its creator
  • how the sotware itself handles users' privacy.

All valid concerns.

[–] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 50 points 22 hours ago (15 children)

Point 1 and 2 really need to be addressed.

It would be so much better if lemmy wasn't developed by genocide white-washing tankies.

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[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 12 points 17 hours ago

The linked post given on the second point is a bit flimsy. It's basically saying that if you use evidence published by a person with shitty views, you must have them too. To me, that's absurd as claiming that referencing FBI statistics makes someone a federal agent.

[–] realcaseyrollins@thelemmy.club 42 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (29 children)

I hate it when people try to gatekeep like this. I don't need to be handheld. If there's a Fediverse alternative to something and it mostly works, it should be on the website. Anything less is not useful at best.

Edit: I say this as someone who has historically criticized the behavior of the devs as well as multiple Lemmy communities BTW.

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[–] Bezier@suppo.fi 31 points 22 hours ago (20 children)

To me the first one is an instance problem (ml, hexbear?), and not a lemmy problem. It has looked like they've been trying to separate the two as much as possible.

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[–] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 14 points 17 hours ago

It has mbin and piefed on the list, so it’s not harming the network at all. If anything it’s more healthy with more platforms rather than just ml and world. It’s one site directing people to the fedi, I’m not butthurt about it

[–] Ziggurat@fedia.io 1 points 10 hours ago

Well they still promote mbin and piefed, which works "plug and play" with the lemmy network, so it's not like they don't want to have user on the lemmyverse. So it's not that bad, and if it can direct people out of the overcrowded .world and sometimes borderline .ml it's great for the whole network.

That said, I don't think that but Lemmy devs are pro China really a good reason to not use lemmy.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 36 points 21 hours ago (10 children)

It's almost certainly because of the tankie factory that is .ml and the fact that it's admins are all hard core tankies (including the main dev! And ofc the whole infamous Nutomic transphobe incident)

Coupled with the fact that a few of the biggest communities are on .ml does not bode well.

That's why I keep calling for a general boycott against posting content or comments on .ml communities.

.ml doesn't want growth, they want a tankie echo chamber, if anybody wants to actually see Lemmy grow at a healthy pace it starts with shuning the hostile tankies and their instances.

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 24 points 21 hours ago (12 children)

Coupled with the fact that a few of the biggest communities are on .ml does not bode well.

https://lemmyverse.net/communities?order=active_month

  • 0 community in the top 10
  • 2 communities in the top 20

That’s why I keep calling for a general boycott against posting content or comments on .ml communities.

!linux@programming.dev is a good alternative to !linux@lemmy.ml

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[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 30 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

Nutomic and Dessalines may be tankies, but they're our tankies

[–] baatliwala@lemmy.world 7 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Not wrong lol. I dislike their behavior but still contribute code to lemmy.

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[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 4 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

They may be your tankis, but they sure arent our tankies.

They can fuck right off

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 7 points 11 hours ago (5 children)

They are literally developing the platform we are on. Sure, I don't agree with their opinion at all, but it doesn't mean I can't respect their work.

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