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Trump, kindly go fuck yourself.

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[–] fourish@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Trump is a total fuckwit. No way we’re becoming American. I kindly invite any Canadians who want to be American to GTFO.

[–] vatlark@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

Not a snowballs chance in... in.... Canada?

Those are actually decent odds.

[–] 7rokhym@lemmy.ca 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Trump lied about anything and everything. It's impossible to call him out on any of it because he is so good at creating these bullshit headlines. Inflation, Ukraine, healthcare, abortion, doesn't matter, if he needed to say something in the campaign to win he said it.

Now in a short time, we will know what he is actually up to, but for now, he generate so much bullshit that becomes a cls command. The media, headlines, social, all his bullshit. Everything he said before, cleared off the screen (front page).

The man is an literal technocrat with extreme skill: Techno: skill Crat: power

He has everyone wrapped around his finger. Well played Mofo.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Shouldnt even dignify the orange moron with an answer

[–] Fisherman75@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

All I can say is freedom isn't free. Maybe that's something Canadians need to learn, I don't know - I don't really want to assume. But I got a cascadian flag tattoo on my left arm like a soldier's patch for a reason. I've been thinking in neomedieval military terms since I was a teenager at an alternative high school in the late 2000s.

Freedom needs to be constantly defended. If you can't give up any kind of tribute to a governing authority or series of governing authorities to defend it for you or don't find any existing entity as authentically defending it then you frankly have to defend it yourself. Same principle for arguing in favor of participatory democracy - if you don't participate in democracy in some meaningful way you are bound to lose it.

[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

with the foreign interference report in the news in canada, canadians need to be reminded that america is also foreign actor that intereferes with our country's affairs. They are just as Malicious as the Indians, Chinese and Russians. At least the intereference that comes from the EU is still in our own interests, unlike the robbers, theives, killers, and hopeful Suzerian's of the others

[–] ilost7489@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

Trump must have visited bumfuck nowhere Alberta and extrapolated that to the rest of the country

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago
[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 68 points 2 days ago (12 children)

I specifically immigrated to Canada from America. I refuse to go back.

[–] shittydwarf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 55 points 2 days ago

xmunk is ours now trump

[–] Stalinwolf@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 days ago

Same. This eyeballing of Canada has me a little stressed out that my life will go back to being absolute shit and I won't have healthcare or be happy.

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[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 37 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Canada can come down here and burn down the White House. Again.

I'll provide the marshmallows.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

Its almost as if nobody realised decades ago that putting all our eggs in one super nation state basket for world protection, a super nation that had been known to have Hollywood politics corrupt to its core, was a bad, bad idea...

[–] jaemo@sh.itjust.works 36 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I prefer Elizabeth May's invitation to California, Oregon and Washington.

USA can stay red, impoverished and ignorant. The adults in the room can get on with Nation Building.

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[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 2 days ago (4 children)

In the past, Trump has accused Canada of accepting a $100-billion subsidy from the United States. It's unclear exactly what he is referencing, but it may refer to the trade deficit between the two countries.

But on Tuesday, that purported $100-billion subsidy rose to $200 billion. CTVNews.ca has reached out to Trump's media office to clarify what the $200-billion figure represents.

"I love the Canadian people, they're great," he said. "We're spending hundreds of billions a year to take care of Canada. … We can't do it forever."

It sounds like what is going on here is, Trump is doing the normal Trump thing of starting with a conservative narrative (austerity, cutting off moochers) and brazenly lying about the state of the world to fill in the blanks of that narrative, knowing his supporters are happy to live in a fictional world, knowing he can't be called out on it in a way that will matter, knowing that it will get people to continue paying attention to him.

[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Last time they lived in a world of alternate facts, is it so hard to believe that they've evolved into alternate reality?

They are looking more and more like Russia every day,

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I’m not gonna last another four years of this insanity…

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[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 days ago

It's fascinating rhetoric if he is talking about the trade deficit. It really speaks to his habitual refusal to pay for products and services rendered.

He thinks paying for shit is for suckers.

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[–] Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win 36 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The irony that if the reverse happened so much would actually improve for the ex-Americans, Canada, and most of the World.

[–] zqwzzle@lemmy.ca 22 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Only the northern border and the coasts. The rest is pretty unfixable.

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[–] ApeNo1@lemm.ee 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

“What do they want from me? I'm good-natured. I'm good-hearted. I'm good-looking. Every day, I'm out there trying to make the world safe. For ~~Germany~~ America. I don't want war. All I want is peace. Peace.

[singing and dance number start]

A little piece of ~~Poland~~ Canada, A little piece of ~~France~~ Greenland, A little piece of …”

[–] gallopingsnail@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I immediately went to "Mambo No 5."

A little bit of Canada in my life

A little bit of Mexico by my side

A little bit of Greenland is all I need

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[–] essell@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (3 children)

"In the 21st century, war was still waged over the resources that could be acquired. Only this time, the spoils of war were also its weapons: Petroleum and Uranium. For these resources, China would invade Alaska, the US would annex Canada, and the European Commonwealth would dissolve into quarreling, bickering nation-states, bent on controlling the last remaining resources on Earth."

[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago (5 children)

"annex" implies they actually have a claim on Canada. It would be an invasion.

And in such an invasion, you'd best believe that the European nations would love to come to Canada's aid because a) They will also be needing the resources, and b) They like us a hell of a lot more than they like the U.S.

So no...a U.S invasion wouldn't be an annexation, it would be the U.S. getting it's shit kicked in by virtually every country in the world coming to Canada's defence.

[–] ahal@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Europe would definitely not come to our aid. There's nothing to gain, and everything to lose. Plus they barely came to the aid of a country being invaded in their own back yard. If they fear provoking Russia's ire, they wouldn't touch the US with a ten thousand foot pole.

Even if they did declare war against the US, it wouldn't tip the balance of power.

[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

It'd be the US kicking everyone elses shit in, until the British and French let the nukes fly, I hate to break it to you but the US is multitudes more powerful than the rest of NATO, NATO can still burn the US, but they'll burn with it. Same goes for Russia.

conventionally, the US is the world hegemon as far as naval and air power goes, they are unbeatable.

what the US doesn't have the stomach for , is occupation. they were defeated by mountain men with 70 year old Kalashnikovs on the other side of the world, who were so culturally different from them they might as well have been aliens, Just imagine what it'd be like against an enemy on your doorstep that looks and talks just like you. that you cant tell from your own. Wait, you dont' even need to imagine, because it already happened, Look at how Russia's occupation was torn apart by the Ukrainian resistance. The only way they ever secure land is by bombing it to dust and moving in.

and unlike Russia, America has a formidable faction within its own borders who would revolt and start a civil war if the Trump/MAGA administration became hostile to America's friends and allies.

[–] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Americans traditionally aren't interested in the land itself. Just the access to their resources under a puppet government. If America really wants to annex Canada it probably won't be by conventional war.

[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

conventionally, the US is the world hegemon as far as naval and air power goes, they are unbeatable.

I see what you're saying. But that Hegemony is based entirely on military bases spread on foreign soil in countries who would immediately upon the start of hostilities annex them. No one "individual" American military base could possibly win a battle surrounded by a suddenly hostile foreign country that they now find themselves an enclave in. Just like that...within days, American's global reach would vanish (with the exception of naval power of course)

We're going to have to agree to disagree on this one. It's a great discussion to have, though I'd never like to see it proven one way or another.

[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I was speaing from the point of view as someone in north america having to deal with american aggression, Yeah the US would lose its bases across the world in short order, but No one is going to be able to come to the aid of Canada or Mexico if they were invaded. Not as long as the US still has the USN,

and the next two largest Navies, are also states Canada would never accept help from, Russia and China.... China is a hard sell, if America was hostile, and China extended a hand, yeah there'd be strings attached, If it were my choice, I'd take it if it meant it was Only Chinese assistance. Russian on the other hand, The Russian ideology is incompatible with life as we know it, I'd rather go down fighting than ever shake hands with Z-Nazis who I personally believe are the ringmasters of this entire world crisis with America turning the way it is.

(also a good portion of the Russian navy is creating a coral reef at the bottom of the black sea, where it belongs)

[–] Grimpen@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

There would be a problem of "you go first…"

If the US became Imperialistic, and I mean old-school Imperial, non of this new age cultural or economic imperialism, then they could probably "take" their first conquest or two without much opposition. In this case Canada and Greenland would probably fall to US occupation.

It's what would happen next that would destroy the American Empire. Everything you said is true, and every one of the US's allies would wonder if they are next. If Canada, the US's closest ally for generations cannot trust the US who can? The clear answer is no one. I would expect a swift unravelling of the global order. The EU would be an interesting case. With a belligerent (but failing) Russia to the East, and their long standing guarantor of peace suddenly no better, would it crack under the stress or would something more capable emerge?

It's a horrific dystopian future we face, the entire globe would be plunged into an era of increased tension and military spending in the best case.

The current US "empire" has shown that buying something is cheaper and more beneficial than conquering something. In a few short years Trump might effectively vastly increase the cost of power from Canadian hydro facilities and at the same time scare away any others that would do business with them.

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[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

If Canada were to be annexed into the United States, it would rank as the third most populous state, and the second largest in terms of GDP.

As it is the second largest country in the world, it's size would be unmatched by any U.S. state. In length and girth.

[–] MyDogLovesMe@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

For now…

Once PP gets the reigns, Trump will just push him around like the spineless demagogue he is. …just a ‘lesser Trump’. Canada will be sold out by PP. Mark my words.

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