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I mean, I as an average person thought about this tactic, I'm sure some project 2025 people also though about it. I mean, denaturalization have to go through courts, destroying naturalization records could just be an executive order. I mean, they don't even need to destroy it, just order the records to be "relocated for security purposes" then "oopsie, they got caught on fire during transport". Once thats done, any of the citizens copies would get dismissed as fake and mass deportations could proceed...

I hope I'm just being a "doomer", and pray it doesn't happen.

Edit: I already have photos of my certificate of citizenship, but still... if they just start burning records, they can just dismiss my copy as fake. ๐Ÿ˜–

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[โ€“] osaerisxero@kbin.melroy.org 27 points 3 hours ago

Real talk: if they're at the point of destroying records to justify it, it will not matter if they actually did succeed in destroying them or not, your best case scenario becomes a quick deportation and worst a concentration camp. Legal justification will not be a blocker.

[โ€“] MisterD@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Well the president is immune from prosecution thanks to the corrupt SCOTUS. He could destroy them but he'd have to do it himself

[โ€“] JonsJava@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Yeah... Not really.

Let's think this through. If the president has immunity, then any order he gives falls under the same immunity.

If I tell you to steal, and anything I say is legal, you stealing would fall under that umbrella. What I tell you to do can't be legal if you doing it is illegal.

[โ€“] lordnikon@lemmy.world 1 points 53 minutes ago

Yeah this is wrong at least when it comes to the military UCMJ allows you to disregard an unlawful order. Nuremberg confirmed that i was just following orders doesn't fly at least in the military. Immunity doesn't make it legal it just makes the person uncountable and shows how broken the system is.

[โ€“] Apepollo11@lemmy.world 33 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Theresa May essentially did this while she was Home Secretary in the UK. It was the trigger of the whole "Windrush Scandal", after it was revealed that the official paperwork of dozens hundreds of naturalised citizens was shredded without any record being made.

It caused people, most of whom were well into old-age to be deported, have their passports confiscated, and be denied access to healthcare services.

[โ€“] db2@lemmy.world 10 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

They can order anything they feel like ordering. Whether it's legal or whether anyone capitulates to it are entirely different questions.

[โ€“] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[โ€“] db2@lemmy.world 8 points 3 hours ago

That word is meaningless in a country where a literally retarded felon is president and domestic policy is decided by a south african narcissist.

I've heard this being discussed for green cards too. Very scary!