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I'm looking for web mail providers, what do you recommend? (lemmy.ml)

submitted 2 days ago by manito_manopla@lemmy.ml to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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For a while now I have been looking for email providers that are transparent and meet EFF standards, and in fact, I went to the EFF website to see if there was an article about email providers, but found nothing, the only decent providers I could find on my own, have been tutanota and cock.li, I am currently using tutanota and was planning to move everything to cock. li, but unfortunately it hasn't been going through its best moment, I would stay with tutanota if it wasn't for one thing, and that is that it can't be used inside thunderbird, there is a plugin that allows you to open a window with tutanota, but that's not the idea, ideally you would be able to add your email address without any external plugin, and that is why I am asking for recommendations that meet the standards mentioned above, but that is also compatible with thunderbird to be able to save the emails locally, any client can download the emails to be able to have them locally, but that is the one I use personally.

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[–] krelvar@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

I am currently hosting my own email on a server that I rent and I am absolutely sick and tired of email issues, spam, google randomly being assholes and blocking my family's traffic, just stupid shit. It's a second fucking job at times. I have DKIM, DMARC, SPF all configured correctly, Google just randomly decides to stop my traffic randomly. Which of these options would you recommend for say up to 20 email accounts or so, using your own domain? I assume all of these options do things like spam filtering on the back end.

To be clear, I am not looking for free, just reasonable.

[–] const_void@lemmy.ml 0 points 10 hours ago

iCloud

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago

Riseup.net.

[–] RiQuY@lemm.ee 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Mailbox.ORG https://www.privacyguides.org/en/email/

[–] JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Seconded. Been a user for years without a single problem.

PS: There's also Proton and Posteo, they're all fine. The important bit is to pay for it. This is a critical hub for your personal data. It's completely aberrant that people have allowed themselves to be trained to accept a free service in exchange for spying. A dollar or two a month is not prohibitive for anyone. We should all be paying for this service.

[–] minyaen@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Thirded. Came from Proton even. It's been solid for sure!

Use it daily with a couple applications. Namely Thunderbird on Android and Mailbird on Windows.

[–] hellfire103@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Posteo is pretty great

[–] slug@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

i got on posteo recently, it's great. sometimes the webmail feels a little archaic but it's probably for good reasons and keeps costs down. every setting i could want is exposed and their guides are really good.

[–] hellfire103@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

The webmail is just Roundcube with a skin and some Posteo-specific modifications. I quite like it, as it does its job without relying on 24 different JS frameworks and turning my laptop into a hotplate.

It's also LibreJS compliant, which is nice.

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I use Proton and it has this bridge application where it connects to the Proton servers and then serves your mail to Thunderbird or whatever locally. So that might work for you, but I'm not sure.

[–] unknowing8343@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's a paid feature. Just in case.

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago

Oh, good catch. I don't have to use it, so I wasn't aware of that. I just knew it existed.

[–] confuser@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Fastmail.com https://www.fastmail.com/

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 6 points 2 days ago

Take a look at Migadu. Maybe that fits your criteria. I moved there from Tuta.

[–] corvus@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The FSF has a page with recommended mail services Free Software Webmail Systems

[–] furrowsofar@beehaw.org 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

For privacy specifically take a look at https://www.privacyguides.org/en/email/ .

For just a paid provider where you are the customer not the product, consider FastMail or a hosting offering such as NameCheap. By hosting I mean the one that is part of their hosting plans not their email specific offering though that is interesting also but quite expensive.

[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Fast mail is not recommended anymore. Not because of them. But because of the Aus govt. check out the access and assistance bill passed a few years ago now

[–] furrowsofar@beehaw.org 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Fastmail was never a recommended privacy specific provider if that is the big concern. Does not mean they do not have value.

Personally livng in the US I prefer a US provider. Geopolitics is one driver. Also US gov is not allowed to spy on their own citizens. If on the other hand they cross the border things are different. Not really many good US choices. EU has a lot of good choices.

[–] manito_manopla@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I had the idea of creating an email server in the future, but everyone I told that to told me it was a terrible idea.

[–] furrowsofar@beehaw.org 1 points 1 day ago

Server no. But hosted domain email is probably what I will do in the next year. Probably at Fastmail or at Namecheap. I have the domain just waiting.

In a way, I already have a mail server on my VPS, just never installed IMAP. Not what I want for every day though.