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[–] BearGun@ttrpg.network 13 points 6 days ago

Funny meme, but Google does in fact snitch, all the time. It's literally their whole business model.

[–] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 8 points 6 days ago
[–] jewbacca117@lemmy.world 140 points 1 week ago

Google is totally a snitch tho

[–] Lemjukes@lemm.ee 104 points 1 week ago

Take this the fuck down, Google is absolutely a fucking snitch where the fuck have you fucking been?

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 95 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Google is a snitch, it just doesn't do it for free.

[–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Tbf neither did the McDonald's snitch. I mean, they probably DID because they will not see a cent of that money, but they still snitched based on the promise of money, not just for free.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I have never wanted a McDonald's worker to suffer more than they already do before this bullshit. Hopefully they never get the reward.

50k sounds like a fortune when you work at McDonald's. 50k is a lot. 50k is life changing money.

We need to put this snitch's story up everywhere in public. Snitch to the cops and they won't even pay you. It's not worth it.

[–] chillinit@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

$50k isn't a house, college education, visit to the ER, or even a good truck.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

$50k could absolutely be a house somewhere in the middle of nowhere (or a large enough percentage that even a McDonald’s salary would qualify you for a mortgage). Taxes would probably knock it down quite a bit though.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Exactly. They are literally the main tool that the US government is using to circumvent the US Constitution, and spy on its citizens without a warrant.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 60 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Remember that time Google deleted a guy's account and reported him to police for discussing his kid's health with their doctor?

https://archive.ph/lUfPr

Dude lost basically every picture of his kid since he was born because Google won't let him back into his Google drive, even after the police cleared him of any wrongdoing.

Some asshole is gonna respond "that's what he gets for trusting cloud storage" as if the problem with cloud storage isn't that big companies have people fooled into thinking it's safe. Yeah, you should keep local backups of everything in case of this exact scenario, kind of like how women should carry pepper spray in case they get assaulted in public. Don't blame victims for not taking every possible precaution.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 42 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Just want to add one more thing:

Mark still has hope that he can get his information back. The San Francisco police have the contents of his Google account preserved on a thumb drive. Mark is now trying to get a copy. A police spokesman said the department is eager to help him.

You know you fucked up when the police are the good guys in the story.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If they’re so eager why didn’t they just get it done right away?

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 week ago

I assume it'd because it's someone's incredibly private information, and they want to make sure they don't give it to some random Joe. I know if the police had naked pictures of my kid, I'd be happy if the process of getting copies took more than just showing my ID and getting a thumb drive

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 4 points 1 week ago

Some asshole is gonna respond "that's what he gets for trusting cloud storage"

Yet businesses do that all of the time. Although I think quite a lot of suing would happen if anyone deleted our data.

[–] stinky@redlemmy.com 46 points 1 week ago (2 children)

https://archive.ph/ozC4i

Police love Google’s surveillance data. Here’s how to protect yourself. Novel ways of using Google’s data are helping police investigations. But privacy advocates say it’s violating Americans’ constitutional rights.

By Shira Ovide October 24, 2023 at 12:30 p.m. EDT An illustration of a Google search bar in an evidence bag. (Illustration by Elena Lacey/The Washington Post; iStock) Listen 7 min

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Comment Add to your saved stories Save This article is a preview of The Tech Friend newsletter. Sign up here to get it in your inbox every Tuesday and Friday. If you happen to be multiple blocks away from a bank robbery, the police could find out and question you. If you searched online for a particular street address, the name of a crime victim or maybe an abortion drug, cops might find out about that, too. How? From Google, the repository of our curiosities, whereabouts and secrets. A recent court ruling in Colorado highlighted how Google’s tracking of our locations and web searches helps police find suspects when they have few leads — but it’s also sweeping innocent people into investigations. Google says it has procedures to “protect the privacy of our users while supporting the important work of law enforcement.” But defense attorneys and civil liberties advocates say that Google is a gold mine for novel police methods that they call unconstitutional fishing expeditions. The advocates say Google must collect and save less of our data to avoid its potential misuse. Let’s dig into how Google’s information is used in police investigations. The One Tiny Win section below also has tips if you want to minimize Google’s data about you.

Follow Technology Follow Even if you believe you have nothing to hide from law enforcement, relentless digital tracking of Americans risks our information falling into criminals’ hands, too. Two novel investigative techniques with Google data In 2020, Denver police officials with a warrant demanded that Google hand over information on anyone who had looked up the home address where a suspected arson killed five people. Prosecutors said people’s Google search histories were essential leads to help identify suspects they charged with murder. One person searched the address 14 times in the days before the arson, prosecutors said. But police also obtained Google search histories from several people who weren’t connected to the crime but also looked up that address or similar ones. A majority of judges on Colorado’s top court recently ruled that the Denver arson warrant was legal given the particular circumstances. The Colorado court and others haven’t ruled whether that type of broad warrant for anyone’s web searches complies with constitutional protections for free speech and against unreasonable government searches. No one knows how often these search-term warrants are used, but legal experts say they’re probably unusual. More common is a similar type of warrant for Google’s records on anyone the company believes was near a crime. In one case in Florida a few years ago, a man said he rode his bicycle near the location of a home burglary. The police investigated him after they obtained data on all devices that Google recorded near the home around the time of the burglary. In a statement, Google said that the broad search term and location warrants “pose particular privacy risks.” Google said that in roughly the past 18 months, the company has successfully objected to more than 2,000 large-scale location warrants as unconstitutional. The pro and cons of large-scale warrants for Google data Law enforcement officials say that Google’s data on people’s locations and search histories helps solve crimes, including in the 2021 Capitol riot, and that innocent people are protected. In initial court-ordered warrants to Google, the company typically gives police information that isn’t connected to people’s identity. Only after they single out potentially suspicious data do the police go back for individually identifiable information. But defense lawyers and privacy advocates say the two types of broad warrants to Google turn normal police work upside down and threaten Americans’ rights. In a typical search warrant, police have a suspect in mind and ask for a judge’s approval to search their home, phone data and other potential evidence. Legal experts are generally fine with those targeted warrants to Google. In the large-scale search term and location warrants, police know a crime occurred but don’t know who might have committed it. They come up with what could be potential evidence — the location near a crime or a search term like “pipe bomb” — and ask a judge to order Google to provide information on people who match those criteria. “That’s not the way criminal investigations are supposed to go,” said Jumana Musa, director of the Fourth Amendment Center of the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers. The bigger picture The Google warrants show that companies with our data are arbiters of our constitutional rights. No one gave Google, Apple or your mobile phone provider that power, but they regularly decide whether government authorities are entitled to your personal information. Privacy advocates say that anywhere our data is collected and saved en masse, there’s potential for abuse. That’s one reason privacy advocates demand that Google track less information that could be used by police — or misused by crooks. They point to Google’s competitors including Apple, which collects location information from iPhones but doesn’t save it in a way that could be mass searched under court order, said Albert Fox Cahn, founder of the Surveillance Technology Oversight Project. Web search company DuckDuckGo says it doesn’t save search records in a way that could be tied to a particular person. Cahn and several other technology privacy advocates said the two types of broad warrants for our Google information should be illegal. New York and other states are considering banning elements of the warrants.

One tiny win In the “Activity controls” settings of a personal Google account, you can turn on or off the option for Google to save records of everywhere you go with your phone or other mobile device. If what Google calls your Location History is turned on, the company may record where your phone travels every couple of minutes, whether you’re using Google apps at the time or not. Google uses your Location History for some of its features, such as the ability to see how busy a restaurant is in its Google Maps listing. The information also goes into a database that is subject to law enforcement warrants. You can also delete all or parts of your Location History data.

(Google; The Washington Post illustration) To minimize Google’s data on what you search, go to the Activity controls and click “turn off” in the Web & App Activity section. It helps to use Chrome and Google web search without logging into a Google account. You can also search the web instead with the DuckDuckGo search engine or use a virtual private network to make it harder for Google or your internet provider to tie your web activity to your device or identity. (One problem, however, is the VPN provider — some of which are shady — will collect all your web activity.)

(Google; The Washington Post illustration) These steps aren’t foolproof, and you as an individual can only do much. Cahn said even if you don’t use an Android phone or Google search, maps and Chrome, the company’s technology is so ubiquitous that Google probably collects some information on most people. And no matter how tech savvy you are or how many settings you change, you will never have full knowledge of what companies including Google do with your digital information. That shouldn’t make you feel powerless. But it helps to understand that Americans have few protections from ubiquitous surveillance of our activities online and where we go. “This system, the way we’re doing it, is broken and wrong,” said Jennifer Granick, a privacy and technology attorney with the ACLU. “The law should really protect people.”

[–] Ste41th@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 week ago

Summary for those who didn’t want to read an essay.

The article discusses the growing use of Google’s surveillance data by police in investigations, which can inadvertently involve innocent people. Privacy advocates argue that this practice infringes on constitutional rights and call for Google to reduce data collection to prevent misuse. Recent court rulings have supported broad warrants for accessing this data, raising concerns about free speech and unreasonable searches. The piece underscores the urgent need for stronger privacy protections amid rising digital surveillance.

[–] Zwiebel@feddit.org 8 points 1 week ago

privacyguides.org

[–] uservoid1@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago

This image is long running joke, man is not a prisoner but South African Community Works Programme (CWP)

https://maps.app.goo.gl/j6V9sT6buMbxtZft5

https://maps.app.goo.gl/N595hnCMhcFn9NS79

https://maps.app.goo.gl/sLgxMGJA1h4W5JrU7

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago

snitching is Google's entire business model wtf are you on

[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 23 points 1 week ago

Pretty sure a lot of that camera data in NYC was from Google and Amazon.

Also, META, Amazon, and Google all kissed the ring. I can’t imagine our collective data isn’t one of the reasons for the initial invitation.

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Unless your initials are NSA, CIA, or FBI

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)
[–] kindenough@kbin.earth 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is that X mark a Wile E. Coyote trap?

[–] dumbass@leminal.space 1 points 1 week ago

Nah that's where he was supposed to stand but he missed his mark.

[–] JoYo@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago

wdym, LEA don’t even need a warrant.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I'm pretty sure the police already know which of their criminals escaped from prison, they are not that useless, so it's not like Google are preventing anyone coming after him.

[–] CrayonRosary@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I love how people are blaming McDonald's—and boycotting them—for the actions of a single employee. How does that make any sense?

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

If McDonald’s pays their employees a decent wage the employee might not have been compelled to call the pigs.

I think it's great. Everyone with a reason to live longer should boycott McDonald's.

[–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

McDonalds could have made a public statement. They didn't

[–] CrayonRosary@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They don't endorse the snitching

[–] CrayonRosary@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Riiight. 'Cause that's something any corporation would say, ever.

[–] osaerisxero@kbin.melroy.org 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Kind of the point actually

[–] CrayonRosary@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

So, I guess boycott every corporation. 🤷🏼‍♂️

Like, not even your favorite non-profit would say that. You're literally expecting the impossible.

[–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] CrayonRosary@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I guess. Not really.

“Peak Design has not provided customer information to the police and would only do so under the order of a subpoena"

That's not the same as saying "We are against our employees calling the police when they see a suspect in our store." after an employee does that. That's what I'm talking about.

On the other hand, very few corporations would volunteer data without a court order. That's normal. We're not talking about that. We're talking about coming out and saying, "We don't support our employees calling the police on a suspect." That's something very few—or no—corporations would do.

It's two very different statements and situations.

[–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 2 points 1 week ago

Yeah, not really but somewhat. Anyway I actually enjoyed our debate, it seems we reached the point where we both understand what the other meant. I just come from bluesky where assholes quote post you to death instead of giving arguments to win the debate. Lemmy feels so much better, away from swarms of fans ready to defend their idols

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago

You expected a rational reason for irrational behaviour? It's never going to make sense outside of "it's just virtue signaling."

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

gestures to Tesla/Musk

'it's just the actions of one employee'

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Can you count the owner as an "employee" or is he by definition the "employer?"

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I dunno, but he definitely doesn't do any work