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[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 17 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

in what universe is speaking two languages considered trashy ?

[–] finderscult@lemmy.ml 39 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Immigrants. If you're a poor and/or undocumented person, especially second generation, you'll speak two languages as a matter of your upbringing; and the majority race will see you as trash, a reminder they are lesser than you in some way because you have more skills despite being lower in the hierarchy.

[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 7 points 3 weeks ago
[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 23 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

English speaking majority monolingual countries who don't travel much (US, UK, etc.)

Generally means you're an immigrant, and not the "good" kind. Unless you otherwise seem wealthy in which case you're "worldly" or whatever. Also depends on the language. French, German, Swedish or something would be overall seen more positively - Spanish, Chinese, Portuguese more negative.

[–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If you're an immigrant.

I don't think that counts as "trashy", though.

[–] hraegsvelmir@lemm.ee 7 points 3 weeks ago

I certainly wouldn't say it's trashy, but there are plenty of others who look down on it because they're racist and/or insecure. Plenty of people will say stuff like "You're in America, speak English!" if they hear someone having a conversation in another language. Hell, I grew up a monolingual English speaker and learned a couple other languages as an adult, and I'll get dirty looks sometimes if I'm talking to my coworkers in Spanish, or my sister-in-law in Portuguese. Some people assume that if they show up, whether they're part of the conversation or not, you have an obligation to switch to English as soon as you're in their presence. There are a lot of ignorant people out their who try to mask their racism with a veneer of "proper etiquette" to force others to change language.

If I'm talking with my coworkers about what we're going to eat for lunch, and someone gets pissy about hearing Spanish because they assume we must be talking shit about them, that's not my problem.

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Being from a non-English-speaking country, it really took a moment to process what they're even trying to say. Everyone below a certain age speaks two languages here. It's so normal that I wouldn't even describe anyone as "speaking two languages"...

[–] magikmw@lemm.ee 5 points 3 weeks ago

I caught it right away, but as a bilingual polish-english speaker with enough french to be annoying to locals in France I get what you mean, and I pity the fools.

[–] Lodespawn@aussie.zone 15 points 3 weeks ago

Slightly rotating your images ..

[–] SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 weeks ago

The two languages one is actually quite interesting. The other stuff is pretty ordinary privilege.

[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 weeks ago

Getting an abortion

Every time the rich get one the conservatives are suddenly okay with it

[–] SatyrSack@feddit.org 9 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

How about the inverse? Classy if you're poor, trashy if you're rich?

[–] Venator@lemmy.nz 7 points 3 weeks ago

Shopping at outlet stores, driving a second hand luxury car that's not quite old enough to be a "classic car".

[–] Steamymoomilk@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 weeks ago

Hillbilly-ing fixes, ducktape, hotglue, basic hand tools and a $500 problem becomes $5

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 4 points 3 weeks ago

Slipping a 20 to skip the queue for a club.

Flying coach

Wearing expensive clothes with large branding

[–] MonkeyBusiness@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago

taking your car to the mechanic

eating out at a restaurant

going on vacation

[–] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Renting, getting a loan... Frankly, "seeming trashy" is a class signifier, what does seem trashy if you're rich but is also trashy if you're poor?

[–] magikmw@lemm.ee 5 points 3 weeks ago

Peeing in public.

[–] AnnaFrankfurter@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

But what about speaking 4 languages. Does that make me trashy or classy

[–] graymess@hexbear.net 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Any more than 2 languages and it seems like it's your job. Not classy.

[–] AnnaFrankfurter@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago

Aah you caught me I'm a spy. 😂😂😂

[–] SchrodingersPat@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago

Buying something that has the modicum luxury, like a nice car, designer purse, iphone, or steak at the grocery store.