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[–] brb@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I never understood why anyone would use Brave, the payouts are small, the utility of the crypto is zero, and watching/seeing adverts is a nightmare. I honestly believe that blocking all advertising and sending a small monetary amount to someone providing value is a better way of supporting the people you care about.

[–] dan@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I use Firefox over Brave simply because I have much more trust that Mozilla won’t suddenly turn into dicks.

(Also because Firefox is awesome now, and because competition in the browser world is a good thing, but it’s mainly the probably-not-being-dicks thing)

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I got downvoted to shit on Reddit for saying stuff like this (on the weirdly frequent posts about how great Brave is)

Ig I’ve found my people now

[–] binocry@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

lmao still thinking moz corporation is your friend

[–] messem10@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Not that Mozilla has been 100% great either. Remember the Mr. Robot debacle?

If not: https://www.theverge.com/2017/12/16/16784628/mozilla-mr-robot-arg-plugin-firefox-looking-glass

[–] kroy@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Firefox. The slowest browser, the least compatible browser, the most annoying when it comes to bugs and issues (Firefox snap anyone?)

I just cannot disagree more. You seriously have to gaslight yourself into liking it.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

What a strange take. I switched from Opera to Firefox like 15+ years ago (whenever Firefox added extensions, so I could use Mouse Gestures (why I was on Opera in the first place))

I never have issues with compatibility or speed. I don’t use Google products so I don’t have Chrome to compare it to, but it’s certainly as fast as/faster an IE/Edge.

[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

the payouts

wait, what? I was just looking for a search engine that does least tracking and brave was recommended a few times, so I use that, but have never seen any ads or been offered any payout? Am I doing it wrong? (for the record, if they'd offered me payment to watch ads I would have never even installed it in the first place, and will now be removing it as my default on firefox)

[–] Glitterkoe@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tried it for a week or two, but since I reinstalled Firefox I really don't understand why I was judging/hating so much in the past years. Yes, Chrome/ium used to be waaaay faster, but Mozilla just has their shit together most of the time. The Debian of browsers so to speak.

[–] Martenz05@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I still remember why: Mozilla fired Brendan Eich, the man who would go on to found Brave, for donating to Christian charities in the politically polarised climate of 2016. After Eich went, they also quietly purged any other employees that showed even a hint of conservative sympathies in their internet presence. They then went on to "experiment" with pushing browser ads on users, and while they eventually ended the experiment because of massive user backlash, they still made no apologies and didn't abandon the idea. Just made a final public response dripping with PR bullshit with a patronising conclusion along the lines of "internet users just aren't ready for this change yet".

[–] Thorny_Thicket@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Their crypto autofill scandal is all one needs to know about this company. If you're marketing your browser as privacy focused and then pull stunts like that you lose all credibility in my eyes. Forever.

Firefox or go bust

[–] Nyaa@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not to mention the interesting bits of info you can find just by looking into the CEO of Brave, Brendan Eich. Plenty of reasons with him alone for someone to avoid the browser and search engine.

The big one that he likes to keep buried is that he donated money to an anti-gay marriage proposition in California back in 2011, which is what caused some of the pressure for him to step down as Mozilla CEO back in 2014 after being it for a few weeks.

[–] Qxzkjp@feddit.uk 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also, he invented JavaScript. He got on my shitlist permanently for that alone.

[–] Makeshift@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

Every single one of these Brave "scandals" are so irrelevant and meaningless. I was hoping the reddit hive mind wouldn't be brought over to lemmy, but here we are.

This article, especially after the update from Brave, seems like a huge nothing-burger. Just another excuse for the Firefox Fanatics crowd to rag on Brave and circlejerk each other about how good Firefox is.

The article isn't even about Brave Browser, and it has nothing to do with user data. The website owner is mad that Brave Search is crawling their site and using data in their "Summarizer" feature. I thought Firefox users were supposed to be against the Google internet monopoly, but apparently when it comes to one of the only companies with their own independent and actually decent search engine, they don't seem to care anymore because of stupid "Firefox good brave bad" browser wars nonsense.

[–] phillycodehound@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I like Brave. Should I stop? 😋 Guess I should look a Vivaldi again

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd avoid Brave based on the founder/CEO's bigotry alone. This is probably a good reason, too.

[–] manapropos@lemmy.sdf.org -1 points 1 year ago

I don’t see what the CEO’s political views have to do with the quality of the product but you do you

[–] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

... Looks like it's time to switch browsers again. Anyone got any suggestions? Preferably a Chromium-based privacy-focused browser without any crypto-related bells and whistles. And it has to be able to sync between Android and desktop.

[–] ephemeral_gibbon@aussie.zone 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why chromium based? I use Firefox and it's very rare I come across a website that has an issue with it

[–] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not that I'm afraid of compatibility issues. It's more that I already had enough trouble bringing over all my settings the last time I switched browsers, and that was between two Chromium-based browsers. I'm willing to go through that same trouble again, but I'd rather not increase it if possible.

[–] ephemeral_gibbon@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

If it's for the bookmarks, you can export that, possibly also for the password manager (although that's riskier). As far as history etc, does that really matter? What other settings would you need to bring across

[–] diodorus@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've been using Brave for over a year now and really like it. Nearly all the functionality of Chrome with none of the privacy issues.

[–] kostel_thecreed@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You should consider switching to firefox. Brave will be affected by the elimination of Manifest V2, essentially killing privacy on chromium browsers (ubo doesnt work as well, privacy badger is useless, etc). An extremely easy way to switch to firefox without the hassle of configuring it be to private is to download the "Librewolf" fork - comes configured at stock with 99% of the privacy features firefox has.

[–] pazukaza@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

I'm very concerned with this change. What incentive will app developers have to ensure their apps run in Firefox if they know Chrome will force users to see ads and be targeted for marketing?

[–] SOB_Van_Owen@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can anyone recommend a good alternative that works well under Linux and block ads and trackers well? In particular YouTube ads?

[–] NausetJF@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

I never liked Brave. I don't care for the crypto crap they add onto their browser

[–] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hope people finally quit that shit of a browser.

[–] _pete_@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As a web developer the problem I have is there are issues with all the browsers that are available today:

  • Chrome and Edge are owned by big companies and report god-knows-what back to their motherships whilst constantly pushing their own services
  • Firefox uses its own rendering engine so it can have some Firefox specific bugs / differences that might be missed, plus doesn’t have support for some of the extensions that you want
  • Safari doesn’t have windows or extensions support
  • Opera is full of random features and promotional bumpf that I don’t care about and have to turn off
  • Vivaldi is a complicated beast that takes a bunch of work to set up, it also includes a mail client, calendar and feed reader in the browser which I don’t need.
  • DuckDuckGo doesn’t have any extension support at all
  • Arc is really fiddly and doesn’t always behave how I want it to (bookmarks behave like tabs for some reason)
  • Brave pulls things like this and is also full of crypto/wallet type stuff, plus you can’t even change your home page.

I just want a simple Chromium browser that doesn’t require me to turn a bunch of shit off, is private by default and supports extensions, I don’t think it’s too much to ask!

[–] Z4rK@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I guess you do get 3-4 questions when you install Vivaldi, like do you want tabs on top, should it import anything, and do you want to use mail and calendar too or just browser.

But “a complicated beast” to set up? No, it works like any other browser right out of the box. It offers advanced customization if you want to dive into them though.

[–] vreraan@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

finally this fucking, shady and useless brave shits out of the jar

[–] gunnm@monero.town -1 points 1 year ago

Vivaldi is so much better without crypto.