@jon@vivaldi.net Firefox, despite Mozilla’s current trajectory because the Chromium monopoly will ultimately harm the web.

Hope to use @servo@floss.social someday 🤞

@jon@vivaldi.net

Firefox because it isn't chromium, and I just like it. With chromium, google controls the web. Doesn't matter what kind of wrapper a third party puts on it. It's still chromium and it's still google.

@jon@vivaldi.net

I currently use:

Firefox on the desktop
Librewolf on the Linux laptop
Waterfox on my main phone

Vivaldi on my other persona on desktop, laptop and second phone.

Also going to try Floop and Zen.

Ostensibly I want to use Firefox forks but I find Vivaldi pretty cool despite being Chromium, especially on mobile.

TBH, none of them are ideal. I'd love to have one browser with multiple profiles across multiple devices, but I find that doesn't work for me.

@jon@vivaldi.net I like Zen browser because it comes with vertical tabs, screenshot feature, and familiar dev tools.

Moreover, unlike Safari, it works well on macOS and Slack notification. When I checked my Slack tab on Safari, I usually found that it didn't load the page yet although I didn't shutdown or restart the computer.

@jon@vivaldi.net

asking us to vote between:

• Chrome
• Chrome
• Chrome
• Safari
• Firefox
• Chrome
• other (but mostly Chrome)

@jon@vivaldi.net I choose Vivaldi as my favorite because I like many things about it. I use my home computer now for recipes, cash spreadsheets, and a shopping list. I had not previously used social media and this is a nice surprise for me to enjoy it. I used Netscape before Metacrawler and then I used shelves of books until trying Firefox. I used Chrome then Edge before I retired, but used Firefox and DuckDuckGo on home computers until I noticed Vivaldi about two years ago and put it on my home computer and laptop and cellphone. I like its many options and features and forums full of answers to questions I might ever need ask! It gives me a calendar and note and task pads and all sorts of things which optionally can sync and be seen when I use the browser on my cellphone or to choose not to sync. The very best is, when I removed Windows Operating System from my old laptop and replaced it with one of the Linux distributions now this Vivaldi continues to give me my familiar user experience. Thank you, to all and everyone who is and who are responsible for allowing me this user experience which followed me between operating systems, thank you.

@jon@vivaldi.net Zen Browser

@jon@vivaldi.net
Other -> LibreWolf

I use Vivaldi but I would really like to see more attention to quality. Breaking things randomly in minor releases and then taking half a year to fix them is not okay, guys. A public issue tracker would also help, instead of the scream-into-the-void bug report form. I understand that you've taken everything from the old Opera team, but this part should've been left behind.

@jon@vivaldi.net Firefox, largely because I like supporting an alternative (non-Blink) rendering engine - I think a rendering engine monoculture is very dangerous for the internet as a whole.

@jon@vivaldi.net I’ve been using Vivaldi lately, but I also like Firefox and Librewolf. However the internet today feels like that of 2000, so many websites only work with todays IE (Chrome), so yeah, the options are either Chromium or Gecko; and the latter doesn’t work for all websites.

It’s a very sad state of affairs.

@Karen5Lund@mastodon.social

@jon@vivaldi.net I use a plethora of browsers.

I'm migrating fron Firefox to LibreWolf (sorry, I prefer non-chrome based browsers), but have a Ungoogled Chromium as a backup those times Firefox/LibreWolf doesn't cut it (I thought the world had learnt a lesson from the IE days; seems we need to educate a new generation web hipsters).

On Android I use the default browser (in @e_mydata@mastodon.social) for a few news/blog sites, Mull and Vivaldi for some other sites and DuckDuckGo when searching. Default browser is Mull with Privacy Mode enabled by default.

I honestly don't like that the Chrome based browsers seems to be dominating these days. We need a heterogeneous web render environment to ensure a single dominant player dictates how things will be for users.

And without such competition, I fear there will be a lesser drive to further improve browsers. Just like when Netscape seemed too complacent with their own browsers back in the days.

@jon@vivaldi.net Firefox+Fennec+Libre Wolf

@jon@vivaldi.net I would love to use Vivaldi, but unfortunately the Ad-Blocker on Android isn't very good - Firefox using ublock-extension or Brave is doing a much better job there.

#Firefox because of Multi-Account Containers

@jon@vivaldi.net

#Firefox got a ton of variants/forks recently.

• #Librewolf
• #MullvadBrowser
• #ZenBrowser
• #Midori

So yeah I take Firefox + Arkenfox user.js or Librewolf if they fixed their CI/CD

@jon@vivaldi.net Arc, with spaces, profiles, boosts, and really considered design decisions, it works really well for what I do.

@jon@vivaldi.net Safari, because all my passwords live in iCloud, and I really like how the touch gestures for back and forward work.

@jon@vivaldi.net After dropping Opera, I now mostly use Waterfox. Vivaldi is also on my desktop and laptop. But so is Brave, Firefox and DuckDuckGO. Edge is also on there, but only because MS won't allow me to remove it :(

@jon@vivaldi.net only now noticed your handle and who you are...and "Feel free to share why."

For me having an alternative rendering engine is a key reason to stay loyal to Firefox.

So no vivaldi for me though I trust you if you'd say it's wonderful in many other aspects (like features and privacy).

@jon@vivaldi.net I would love to support Vivaldi more than I do but I worry about the Chromium base and also Firefox has its own plugin ecosystem.

@jon@vivaldi.net Librewolf. Based on Firefox but more lightweight. I'll never use a Chromium-based browser in my life anymore.

@jon@vivaldi.net I’m currently trying Zen, which is FF inside and Arc outside, basically.
Re: why, I think Chrome is the new IE6, and we need more engines to keep the web open

@jon@vivaldi.net
Just wish Google was not used in vivaldi , so when I don't want their influence I use ddg . if there is a way to keep Google completely out of Vivaldi. I'd like to know how.
Thanks MTT

@jon@vivaldi.net can't live without Vivaldi's workspaces

Firefox right now, and pretty happy with it, but Vivaldi is increasingly starting to sound like a contender.

@jon@vivaldi.net Brave

@jon@vivaldi.net Firefox, because its the only real alternative to chrome and its clones, firefox its still the most customizable browser, vivaldi its the second, but the biggest con of vivaldi feels that its the slower among chrome clones

@jon@vivaldi.net librewolf

@jon@vivaldi.net safari and Firefox. Alternative to chromium-based browsers.

@jon@vivaldi.net Firefox on Android supports extensions, wish Vivaldi did the same!

@jon I'm a Vivaldi supporter since V1. Because of open privacy (MV3) and open finger printing support I use more & more FF and Zen in the last months ... ;-( But I love Vivaldi, great team support and the Vivaldi style

@jon@vivaldi.net I like Firefox as a platform, but don't like it as a browser

@jon@vivaldi.net i kind of hate them all, each for a different reason...

@jon@vivaldi.net : And my second favorite is Lynx https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynx_(web_browser)

@jon@vivaldi.net Vivaldi loyal since its early days for its customisability and ear to the user, even though I find its hosting of user accounts quite glitchy.

@jon@vivaldi.net brave o waterfox

@jon@vivaldi.net Vivaldi on android is the only one that does tabs right IMO with the tab bar.
Firefox is nice because it's one of the only ones not using chromium or WebKit and with, finally, vertical tabs I am pretty happy using it on desktop again.
And Vivaldi and Zen Browser because of the amazing split screen feature.
But I prefer Zens sidebar tabs and the fact its also based on Gecko.

So for me it's Zen and Firefox on Desktop and Vivaldi on Android.
Which makes me unable to use sync :/

@jon@vivaldi.net
There's no one. Hopefully Servo or Ladybird helps me decide.

Hi @jon@vivaldi.net

As a technology enthusiast, I’d like to share my perspective on this.

Firefox has been my go-to browser for a while, mainly because of:

1. Multi-Account Containers: Perfect for managing multiple profiles or accounts seamlessly.
2. RAM Efficiency: It’s lightweight and doesn’t hog system resources.
3. Privacy Focus: With its 100% open-source nature and stellar reputation as a privacy-first browser, it’s hard to beat.

Vivaldi, on the other hand, has a special place in my heart for its unique and productivity-oriented features:

1. Page Tiling: A brilliant tool for working with multiple pages side by side—ideal for multitaskers.
2. Plain Text/Markdown Notes: This feature is a gem for academic researchers and avid readers like me, making it easy to jot down notes directly from web pages.
3. Web Panels: Super handy for accessing frequently used sites without leaving your main tabs.
4. Customizable Dashboard: A lovely productivity hub and a virtual assistant.

A Few Observations

While Vivaldi excels in many areas, there are a couple of things I’d like to highlight:

High RAM Usage: Vivaldi can be quite demanding on memory.
Text-to-Speech Feature: Adding a natural and seamless "Read Aloud" feature would make it even more user-friendly.

Cheers 😊

@jon@vivaldi.net
On macOS it doesn’t feel native like f.e. Orion does. Also often the scrolling feels weird: content not moving as fast as your finger.

@jon@vivaldi.net
For me I use both Vivaldi and firefox.

I like Vivaldi cause its all about customizability and has decent privacy.

I like firefox because it doesn't have to have chromiums bad choices (not including jpegxl, manifest v3, etc). Of the course the defaults aren't the best, but it is also very customizable (even if its harder to customize than Vivaldi).

@jon@vivaldi.net
Mullvad

@jon@vivaldi.net Orion for macOS (it uses WebKit, framework-native Mac application)

@jon@vivaldi.net Vivaldi and Zen browsers. Cuz I like customizability. Zen feels faster though. Vivaldi and Fennec on Android.

@jon@vivaldi.net I don't have a favorite browser at the moment. The one I currently use is brave, but there are several things about it that I don't like.

I've yet to find a browser that doesn't break my workflow in a critical way that also isn't brave.

I have several manifest v2 extensions that I'm not going to be giving up.

So until a browser has a tab discard mechanism that can be configured to not auto un-discard a tab on focus, and has a way to force immediate discarding, brave is where I stay.

@jon@vivaldi.net brave

@jon@vivaldi.net I was a long-time Opera aficionado, only dropped it when they switched to WebKit (and then Blink) and the last Presto-based version became obsolete (TLS-wise, mostly). Switched to Firefox, with which I'll stick as long as it maintains Gecko. Would love to jump to Vivaldi, but we need more independent rendering engines for the health of the web.