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I used Ubuntu once a few years ago but had compatability issues so I went back to windows. Not a great programmer but I'd like to learn. I'm not looking to do much gaming beyond DOOM2 and factorio. Mostly looking for privacy and a way to get back into programming (I have this pipe dream of learning Assembly). I'm not to particular on UI, I can use whatever.

Edit: https://distrochooser.de for anyone who stumbles upon this post with the same question

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[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 66 points 1 year ago (2 children)

'it came to me in a dream' has got to be a pretty unique reason for switching to Linux

[–] PRUSSIA_x86@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I kept closing tabs and they kept reopening with ads. It must be a sign.

[–] TheCheddarCheese@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

sounds pretty realistic to me tbh

[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

😂 I've done weirder things based off dreams. I'd say this is reasonable

[–] xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you sure that was a dream?

[–] PRUSSIA_x86@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Are we sure this isn't a dream?

[–] jsdz@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago
[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 54 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Anytime someone new ask for recommendation, I'd give Linux Mint.

[–] Vilian@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

also this, start small with mint, and you can test other distros that people show here

also, start with dual boot/VM, it's a different OS, keep windows there for when you need it

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[–] Chobbes@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You don’t need to be a programmer to use Linux. I’d probably recommend you go with something like mint. Avoid things like Arch or Gentoo or NixOS for now as they involve a lot more manual configuration and it’s probably best to understand the landscape of things first.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 11 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I recognize that, having used Linux almost exclusively for 20 years, my perspective on these things is not objective. EndeavourOS seems pretty new-user-friendly, though, doesn't it?

[–] Chobbes@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Could be, but I don’t know anything about it! Of course there are distributions based on Arch (like SteamOS) and Gentoo (like ChromeOS) that can be perfectly usable for beginners to the Linux world. In general, though, I’d probably recommend using something common, and not using a rolling release distro as a beginner.

Realistically, though, the distro probably doesn’t matter too much for a first install, as long as you pick one where you get a reasonably well featured desktop environment out of the box. Beyond that the biggest difference between most distros is the package repository and package manager… You’ll probably pick up pretty quickly that you need to use dnf or yum or whatever on something like Fedora vs the apt suite on something like mint. It’s also kind of a time honoured tradition to do some distro hopping when dipping your toes in Linux, which I think is a good idea because you’ll learn about some of the different things that are available :). It’s not even too big of a deal if you preserve your home partition between installs (have a backup if you mess this up, though).

I’ve been in Unix land pretty much my whole life and I’ve been on Gentoo and NixOS for a long time so I’m not totally up to date on the beginner friendly distros either haha. Frankly, as long as you pick something with a short and simple install process (which most distros have) you’ll be fine in my opinion.

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[–] BananaTrifleViolin@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What was your dream about windows?

[–] PRUSSIA_x86@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I was trying to run some weird nonsensical dream program for a work presentation and it kept opening M$Edge to show me ads. Every time I closed a window, two more would open. Eventually I was fired because "real dudes use arch". Then I woke up.

[–] littletranspunk@kolektiva.social 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

@PRUSSIA_x86 @BananaTrifleViolin damn, your dream really went full "I use arch btw"

For real though, that sounds like a much better future than an OS from a company named after Elon's dick

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[–] hackris@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago

Many people have asked me this (I'm the certified neighborhood tech guy :P), I always recommend Linux Mint, with the Cinnamon desktop environment, or KDE. Ubuntu used to be the best one and it's still very good, but pretty heavy on hardware and they keep adding frustrating features nobody asked for.

Please please please, at the start, stay away from Arch and it's derivatives. I daily Gentoo, but you need a decent knowledge of Linux to use both. If you need help, post to the Linux community or DM me :)

[–] petsoi@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 1 year ago

Clear vote for Fedora,

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 13 points 1 year ago (7 children)
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[–] nottheengineer@feddit.de 13 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I'd recommend against Ubuntu. It uses snaps and it'll teach you that the hard way eventually by having very weird issues.

Mint is based on ubuntu but says no to snaps, so that's a good place to start.

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[–] banazir@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

You didn't give much info to go on, so maybe try Distrochooser. Honestly, most distros should work out fine. If you like Ubuntu, maybe try Mint.

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[–] imnapr@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Really recommend mint, or ubuntu. Please for the love of god stay away from arch and all of it's derivatives, or at least try Ubuntu/Mint first. Also do NOT use manjaro it sucks, it is not maintained well at all

[–] NathanUp@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I feel so alone in my love for Manjaro :[

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[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] psivchaz@reddthat.com 8 points 1 year ago

Seconded. PopOS doesn't get enough love. For a drop-in desktop it's pretty great. I totally get why other distros have some weirdness around closed source and binaries and things. However, the average person just coming from Windows doesn't care, so just make it easy to install Steam and whatever else they want without making them go through extra steps.

[–] loudWaterEnjoyer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Do yourself a favor and just go with Debian Stable

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My vote is for mint. If you've been a long time windows user it should be the easiest one to get used to. PopOS is also newbie friendly if you're not into the feel of Mint for whatever reason.

My biggest recommendation though is to spend some time with a few different OS's and try setting things up different ways. Like if you start with Mint, try something new a month or two later. It's a good way to get used to the way linux OS's work under the hood.

I'm not a programmer at all, but if you have some background with computers and are willing to sink some time into learning and setting up a new system you'll be fine.

[–] KindaABigDyl@programming.dev 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Mint is currently my recommendation for Windows refugees and has been for a while.

  • Cinnamon desktop environment works like Windows' UX
  • Ubuntu-based, so you'll find help online for basically anything
  • Not just Ubuntu; follows more popular, community decisions rather than Canonical's (e.g. things like Flatpak instead of Snap) which will help you in the long run since you'll be using what everyone else is using
  • Ubuntu-based, so Debian-based, so pretty stable with lots of available software (even outside of Flatpak)
  • Significant amount of work put into UX with less you have to do

If you're not worried about high-performance gaming, you'll be fine with whatever. For developers, any Linux distro is gonna be leagues better than what you're used to on Windows. For Assembly, NASM + VS Code will be great.

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[–] the_q@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago

Linux Mint or Garuda Linux

[–] guitarsarereal@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't overthink it. You're not likely to pick the best first distro for you out of the gate, because the best distro for you depends on a whole pile of factors. Like -- what hardware do you have? Did you win the hardware lottery and you just by chance have a fully working setup with libre drivers out of the box? In that case, you could use most anything and be up and running without much difficulty. Have some device that needs proprietary firmware or just a third-party, closed source driver? Might want to start on one of the more beginner-friendly distros, like Mint or PopOS. These won't give you a great view of the possibilities of Linux, but they will get you up and running fast.

Best approach is to take a guess, install it, try it for like a week, and if you're more angry at the end of the week than you were at the beginning, try a different distro.

Popular first choices are Ubuntu, Mint, Pop_OS or Elementary, I'd recommend trying Kubuntu as the UI is the most similar to Windows and it has a different development team than mainline Ubuntu. There are annoying things about Ubuntu that are less awful on Kubuntu.

Red Hat was bought by IBM a few years ago and they're quickly moving to kill off everything that made the Red Hat ecosystem cool and useful for end users, so tbh I'd avoid Fedora or anything Fedora based. There's a risk you'll get comfy and then have the rug pulled out from under you.

Canonical, Ubuntu's parent corporation, is drawing closer and closer to Microsoft and I honestly don't trust that, especially with some of the decisions they've been making around software management, but using Ubuntu will get you ready to try Debian, which is the cool and community-oriented distro Ubuntu based itself off of.

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[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

Just use Ubuntu/Mint, because that's what everyone uses and has the most support forums.

[–] Aatube@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

EndeavuorOS. It's a seamless base configuration of Arch which has a wonderful wiki that has a ton of stuff to tell you.

You can install pamac for a GUI for the package manager. Do yay to search for any package and install it; do yay (nothing else) to upgrade everything, and yay -Rcns to remove stuff and all their unused dependencies. I also recommend chaoticAUR

For the DE I recommend MATE but you can select any of the major ones in the installer. For me Steam didn't work when xdg-portal-gnome was installed though and firefox-like apps booted real slow, so you may or may not want to try GNOME.

Get synapse for a spotlight-like search; it uses the alt+space keybind by default

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[–] neomis@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I still think Ubuntu or a flavor of it is the right answer for people new to Linux.

[–] doofer_name@feddit.de 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If by flavor you mean linux mint: yes, absolutely! If you mean anything else thats more like ubuntu itself: hell no!

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[–] garam@lemmy.my.id 5 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Fedora is great with gnome for beginer and don't get in way to much like Ubuntu when used daily

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[–] CodeGameEat@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Since you're just starting out, I would probably recommend mint. I think it's the most stable of the "mainstream" distros and you'll have less frustrations. If you want to have a great experience with managing packages, I think installing and using the nix package manager is the best way to manage packages on any distros (and who knows, maybe in a year or 2 you'll want to try nixOs!)

[–] explodicle@local106.com 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

In case no one else mentioned it: prboom for Doom 2

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[–] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 14 points 1 year ago

If they are asking, not discovering, perhaps EndeavourOS would be a better intro to Arch.

[–] backhdlp@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 year ago

Ubuntu is a good starting point.

You can follow the general idea of: "Are you new to Linux? If yes, use something you know other people know too. If no, use whatever the fuck you want, heck, make your own distro if you want".

I'd say try whatever looks good to you, you can always install something else if you don't like it, as long as it isn't Manjaro. (backup your data before you install something new)

Some distros that I think are a pretty good choice for starters (no particular order):

  • Pop!_OS
  • Ubuntu
  • Fedora
  • Endeavour OS
  • Linux Mint
  • openSUSE Tumbleweed

You can also use Distrochooser to maybe help you make a decision.

Not a great programmer but I’d like to learn.

That's alright, you don't have to be a programmer to use Linux. You don't even have to use the command line if you don't want to (tho I recommend it, getting good at it feels pretty great).

[–] heleos@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've been using arch for years, but finally removed my windows install a week ago and ended up on opensuse tumbleweed. It's rolling release like arch (so there's never a need to reinstall or have a big update once a year) and it has some extra fail-safes for when updates go wrong (there's an automated QA that tries to find package breaks before they're pushed for updates, and they have a tool called snapper that let's you revert back to a working state if you run into problems)

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[–] Hairyblue@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

I use my PC for gaming. Ubuntu works well for me with my new hardware: Intel 13gen, Nvidia 3080, Steam.

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