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I hear many people say that the Google Pixel is good for privacy, but is it?

I'm asking this because I find it weird, of all the companies, Google having the most “privacy”.

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[–] jacktherippah@lemdro.id 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yes, it is. I mean, GrapheneOS is the gold standard for privacy&security, but even stock Pixel is a good step up. Think of it like this: on stock Pixel, only Google is tracking you, not Google + Samsung, or Google + Xiaomi. Just Google. It's guaranteed to be a step up from all other Android phones, stock or not.

[–] HerrLewakaas@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

Wow the fact that this is considered good is depressing

[–] maudefi@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Google Pixel hardware is focused on providing a private relationship between the user (your data and behavioral patterns) and Google.

Depending on your threat model you can flash custom roms to enhance your privacy and security posture.

A lot of folks here seem to be of the "...just flash GrapheneOS and you're good..." crowd but it's not that simple and there are trade-offs that impact usability and user experience.

There are a lot of interesting projects out there to choose from. Best advice is to work-up your real world threat model and do your reasearch.

You may find Louis Rossman's experience with GrapheneOS relevant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4To-F6W1NT0&t=1

Here's a few links to help get you started - there are many android projects. I am not affiliated nor am I explicitly endorsing any of these projects.

CalyxOS https://calyxos.org/

LineageOS https://lineageos.org/

HavocOS https://havoc-os.com/

ResurrectionRemix https://resurrectionremix.com/

DerpFest https://derpfest.org/

PixelExperience https://wiki.pixelexperience.org/

GrapheneOS https://grapheneos.org/

[–] N4CHEM@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I would add iodéOS to that list

https://iode.tech/en/

Then let each user choose what they like

[–] cooopsspace@infosec.pub 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd argue yes.

I see Google as a known unknown, where as various other Chinese phones are unknown unknowns.

I acknowledge I have western bias, but the propaganda, human rights violations and control of the CCP is well understood.

At the very least Pixel let's you flash an alternative OS.

[–] jose1324@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Basically every Chinese phone has a great custom rom support

[–] cooopsspace@infosec.pub 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And rootkits on the chips. If not now then when.

[–] jose1324@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Here's your tinfoil hat

[–] z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah. I thought it was weird, but the stock Pixel is very secure, and if you install Graphene OS, it is even more so. Additionally, Graphene OS sandboxes The Playstore Apps, and gives you much more control over what the Apps you install are allowed access to. You have to go way out of your way to make it less private than the stock OS, and you pretty much can't make it less secure than the stock OS.

You can get almost anything that works on the stock Pixel working on Graphene OS except for Google Wallet and the Android drive app. Banking Apps work, Google Apps work (but you might as well try to use alternatives).

I had an iphone for years, but after using Graphene OS for the past 3 months, I can honestly say I'll do everything I can to not go back.