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[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Trudeau should've applied the same courtesy to the railway workers.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 month ago

Yes, but he doesn't know them personally. (/s but not because it's untrue)

[–] Sundial@lemm.ee 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

"I know that if I had chosen to end it, it would have started with a call to him. I would have said, 'You know what, Jagmeet? It's not going to work.' You make those tough calls."

I honestly get why Singh chose to distance himself from Trudeau but I kind of see where Trudeau is coming from to say he should have at least talked to him first. You don't just quit your job without telling anyone and disappear. Not unless something really bad happened where you feel unsafe to do so or its just such a shitty workplace. I'm not aware of anything like that to have happened between the two. It seemed to be just a split in political priorities.

EDIT: Completely forgot about Trudeau's forced arbitration of the rail workers strike. I take back what I said above.

[–] DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The NDP is very-much a pro- worker party. When the liberals forced the workers into arbitration instead of allowing them to strike, they cut at one of the core issues for the NDP. The liberals committed their act against the railworkers in public, so the response being in public makes sense.

It would be the same as an environmental party publicly cutting ties with a "pro business" party for allowing the creation of new farm land by reducing the size of a national park.

[–] Sundial@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago

I completely forgot about that whole incident. I guess in that context it does make sense, I agree. A political tit-for-tat between the 2 parties.

[–] SirDankbud@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 month ago

Really? The labour party backed out of a deal after the other party busts a big union strike. Anyone could've seen it coming. I doubt Singh felt a phone call was warranted when the libs did something so antithetical to their core principles. It goes against everything the NDP was founded on.

[–] voluble@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago

Also, I can see from the NDP perspective, the view that the Liberals weren't holding up their part of the deal to advance NDP policy. In this circumstance, it's not like quitting a job. Trudeau wasn't Singh's boss. They had an agreement that the NDP said was mutable from the start based on their discretion. For Trudeau to bellyache about it all now is, I think, a bit silly, considering the essentially cost-free benefit his party gained from the agreement for years.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago

Why Trudeau wasn’t his boss.

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Publically announcing your hurt feewings instead of asking the other person why they didn't contact you first is pretty rich coming from a PM.

Maybe Trudeau should have risen to the occasion and acted like an adult instead of coming across as elitist who wasn't treated with the proper deference.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 month ago

This is politics from both parties. Singh didn't say anything first because the conditions were pretty clear, and it's politically advantageous to strike first. Trudeau talks about being the aggrieved party because that's politically advantageous, too.

[–] Rampsquatch@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's not the easiest thing when you're a narcissist politician.

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

He didn't used to be tho. When he first ran to be an MP he was articulate, open-minded, and took time to talk to the nation. The first indication he had issues was when he backed down from his promise of electoral reform ... the beginning of the end I guess.

[–] psvrh@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

He didn't really talk to the nation. He played a role: sunny, shiny, happy, rainbow-painted park benches pride parades, but underneath it's the same champagne-sipping Laurentian neoliberal wankery.*

I'd say the mask was off with either electoral reform or, and this is my theory, the lightning-fucking-quick move to sell TMX.

(as opposed to the tall-hat, cowboy-cosplaying Calgarian elite that's the CPC)

[–] Rampsquatch@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He's still articulate now, and I would argue any open-mindedness he shows has always been a performance.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What about the whole we showed believe the Woman. Then he gets accused by a woman of a sexual crime and he says she experienced it differently.

[–] Rampsquatch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

An articulate way of saying "she's lying, don't believe her." It's further proof of my point that he's a narcissist and doesn't mean most of what he says.