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But how do people make these? I searched online and the best I could find were small Japanese communities still using MS Gothic (which is metrically incompatible with Arial/more-used fonts) and halfhearted JPG-to-ASCII-bitmap converters.

Further, how do people manage these? I'd imagine an emoji search, but these millionfold emoticons don't have names; and the other alternatives are "I've got a meme for that scrolls down infinite camera roll" or searching them up every time.

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[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

First off, MS Gothic is a monospace font. (Meaning all characters have the same width and move the cursor by the same horizontal distance. Ok, that's a slight oversimplification. Especially when you're dealing with asian characters, there's a possibility of "double-width" characters which are twice the width of "single-width" characters and move the cursor twice as far.) In sites like Lemmy, there are usually ways to tell Lemmy to switch into "monospace" like you did with the first cat art you posted in the body of your post. And that ensures consistency in the output. With non-monospace fonts, it's more of a crapshoot. Arial's "m" might be a different width than Comic Sans', for instance. Typically, sites like Lemmy (or 4chan or Reddit or Facebook or whathaveyou) won't have ways to specify a particular font (different Lemmy clients are also free to use different fonts), so if you composed ASCII art with a non-monospace font and pasted it into a Lemmy post/comment, even if it looks right to you in Lemmy, it may not look right to other viewers of your post. And that's why monospace is popular for these things.

How to make these? I honestly don't know if there are specialized tools for that. Probably just a standard text editor. The examples you posted have some asian characters in them, so a way to input such characters. I'm on a Linux machine and have fcitx set up for Japanese text input. If you're on another OS, I'd expect the way to set up input for asian characters would be different. Alternatively, there are probably unicode character explorers/apps that can be used and don't require quite the learning curve.

As for how to manage these, no idea. I can think roughly about how I might go about writing a program that migth manage these, but I'm not sure if any exist out there currently.

[–] hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

On windows, there's an ascii/unicode char lookup table system tool, which you can use to search and copy special characters. Just FYI.

[–] Interstellar_1@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Same on plasma, it's called kchar.

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

What the hell, how have I never opened that? 😅

I've been using webpages for this, but this is so much quicker.

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago

I don't think, there's a special trick to making them. You can look at existing kaomoji lists and pick out individual symbols to create the shape that you want.

Or you can combine kamojis. For example, maybe you want a cat handing over a flower, but you want it to look sad, like an apology.

Then you find a sad cat kaomoji:

/ᐠ • ˕ •マ

And combine it with the kaomoji you posted:

⠀/\__/\
 (• ˕ •)    
/ >🌷< \

Well, could be better, but just as an example. Combining different faces and arm shapes and such is relatively easy.

As for managing them, I usually see tags assigned to them. On the webpage that you posted, it's the little text boxes below the kaomoji.
But in its simplest form, you could have a text document and just write a few words above each kaomoji, like e.g. "sad cat flower". Then if you search the text document with Ctrl+F for "cat", this will be one of the results.

[–] inconel@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Japanese here. There are specific editors often categorized as "アスキーアートエディタ" (Ascii Art Editor). They often come with libraries of existing AA to modify, and can display image with low opacity to "trace" image.

Large part of jp ascii art made/appeared in 90s to early 00s at underground forums like 2ch. Those editors were tailored for their speifics such as font family (MS-P Gothic) and size. The display/font system is different nowadays, but unlike "AA artist" in those times who is 100% comitted to make vertical line aligning pixel perfect most of people find those AA displays ok.

[–] MrsDoyle@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago
[–] Tyoda@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Basically off topic but... At one point I tried generating some mouse ASCII art with Ch*tG*T and

This was by far its best output

  ,     ,
  (\,;,/) 
   (o o)
==\_~_/_==
 /   \    
 \   /    
  `"`"`   

and I really liked it

so I spruced it up a little.

  ,     ,
  (\,-,/)
   (o o)
 ===\_/===
   / o
  / mm\
(_\   /
   `"`"

And now I just want to know where it stole the original from, so I could give credit when I use it...

[–] sag@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

New Lemmy Mascot??

[–] SolOrion@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

ChtGT

I've not seen someone censor that yet and I was confused asf lol