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[–] Commiunism@lemmy.wtf 34 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I've read The Guardian article about the situation, and what stuck out to me was this:

The US president, Joe Biden, said he was aware of Israel’s plans to launch an operation into Lebanon as he urged against such a move. “I’m more aware than you might know and I’m comfortable with them stopping,” he told reporters at the White House. “We should have a ceasefire now.”

Thank you Biden, just wag your finger and keep feeling "comfortable with them stopping", that is ought to give you some moral victory points which is all that matters (and not thousands of civilians being killed by Israel that's funded by US).

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Imagine being either more bloodthirsty or more incompetent (or both) that Reagan.

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 28 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

This will lead to WW3. Plus the blow back will be endless. You can't murder tens of thousands of people, and displace and starve millions with out creating terrorists.

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 12 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

The think that hezbollah and hamas and all the attacks on Israel by both are 100% unprovoked and brought on by some inbred hatred for jews. Hell, I was accused of being a bigot simply for being Lebanese and it was somehow taught to me as a child that I must hate Israel because of where I was born.

Nothing could be farther than the truth. I hate Israel and zionism the same way I fucking hate the nazis. It is because of what they believe, what they did, and what they are doing now, and what they plan on doing.

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 4 points 36 minutes ago

And whatever blindfolded bigotry is in these areas they are justifying with their actions. Do they think someone who just had their lives, friends and friends blown up or stolen by Israel is going to think rationally? I'd tell you what I'd do in the Palestinians shoes but it'll probably get me on a FBI watch list.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 14 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Not will be. Is. The blowback from last time was, among other things, Hezbollah.

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 10 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

There are countless fake Lebanese who claim that this invasion is justified and it is 100% hezbollah fault (yeah right) while not realizing that this shit could lead to something far worse.

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

WW3 is the something worse. I don't see how this goes any other way. China and Russia will back Arab nations to stick it to the US if our troops get involved. (we just sent 10k troops to the region as "peace keepers and advisors" totally won't backfire like very other time) We are moving away from the proxy War phases and straight into full on global war.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 minutes ago

The US military is gearing for war with the PRC around 2027, so I expect sometime in the next decade for a serious war.

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago

With fucking nukes I might add.

[–] Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml 29 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

99% of genocidal fascist settler states give up right before winning a 4 front war, FACT

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 5 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Isn't it only two fronts? I don't think there's much fighting going on in the West Bank, only one-sided slaughter.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 hour ago

Isn’t it only two fronts?

[–] Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml 9 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

they're also being bombed by Yemen, and iirc there's a buildup of troops and equipment on the Syrian border in the Golan Heights region

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 2 points 4 hours ago

I see. That makes sense.

[–] Arelin@lemmy.zip 88 points 10 hours ago (4 children)

"Is Lebanon part of Israel's promised territory?" — Jerusalem Post, 5 days ago

They've removed it since. Too mask-off to release in english I guess.

[–] doubtingtammy@lemmy.ml 6 points 53 minutes ago

Rabbi Shay Tahan, the Rosh Kollel of Shaarei Ezra in Brooklyn, NY, graciously opens the gates to understand them.

White dude from Brooklyn: "God promised me Lebanon"

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 9 points 2 hours ago

They believed this from day 1 I might add.

[–] anachronist@midwest.social 17 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

That is religion. It is crazy to me that we live in this age with endless knowledge at our fingertips and people still believe all of this nonsense.

We can look into the belief systems and religions of people from all over the world, and somehow the majority of us can’t look at our own systems and realize that it’s all bullshit.

You can hear the teachers in rural India say, “The caste system is the will of God! How can you question the will of god?” A couple clicks later and you can hear a child Imam saying, “How can there be any god besides Allah?!” A few more clicks, you can hear a rabbi say, “We are the people chosen by god!” A couple more clicks and you hear the preacher say, “All other gods are false gods. Only our son of god is the one true god!” Hell, you can go down a rabbit hole of all the “gods” currently living with lucky followers of the one true living god right here, right now. Vissarion in Siberia gave those lucky bastards the Last Testament they’ll ever need to read. Imagine being lucky enough to shake your god’s hand and watch him prance around in white and burgundy robes and grow old before your eyes.

There are so many one true gods out there. You’d think that alone would make people think and question their own one true god. Nope. Not only do the majority of us keep putting our hands together and saying amen, we got folks out here making brand new gods today for future people to fight and die for.

It’s amazing.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 minutes ago

It's the Base and Superstructure.

[–] anarcho_blinkenist@hexbear.net 21 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

"promised territory" hmm where have I heard that before...

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 77 points 10 hours ago (9 children)

What the fuck you doing, Israel?

[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 55 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

These kinda of things are why the US supports Israel. It helps destabilize the neighbors that don't fall in line with US interests. The US fears a sovereign Middle East where they get to choose what to do with their own countries and resources, not just for the usual Imperialist reasons, but because of the importance of the petrodollar system.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Underrated analysis

[–] anachronist@midwest.social 12 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

That's too 5-d chess for "the US" to pull off. I find it more plausible that the US supports Israel because Israel has a lot of powerful supporters in the US who manipulate public opinion and government policy.

[–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

I grew up in the evangelical movement. I heard over and over and over again (some variation of this) when I was a kid, “The nation that refuses to aid Israel will fall! All of those who turn their backs on the Jews will burn when god returns.”

Those people are deadly serious too. It wouldn’t matter what Israel does.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

It's not 5-d chess, it's simple politics of weakening potential rivals. If you look at history literally the same thing was done even by ancient hegemonies, it has even popular Latin name - "Divide et impera". USA is global hegemon and acts globally.

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 30 points 10 hours ago

Genocide, same thing they've been doing with infinite help from the US

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[–] Hello_there@fedia.io 33 points 10 hours ago

Israel is being run by a bunch of racist antisemitic ghouls

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