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Modern AI data centers consume enormous amounts of power, and it looks like they will get even more power-hungry in the coming years as companies like Google, Microsoft, Meta, and OpenAI strive towards artificial general intelligence (AGI). Oracle has already outlined plans to use nuclear power plants for its 1-gigawatt datacenters. It looks like Microsoft plans to do the same as it just inked a deal to restart a nuclear power plant to feed its data centers, reports Bloomberg.

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[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 45 points 6 days ago (12 children)

Are we eventually gonna get more fusion because billionaires are demanding more energy for their stupid projects?

Sure, knock yourselves out.

[–] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 13 points 5 days ago

Are we eventually gonna get more fusion [...]

Either you mean fission, or the "more" could be omitted.

[–] assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

Most likely more fossil fuels because they’re faster and cheaper to roll out.

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[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 41 points 6 days ago (4 children)

I'm sure that everyone will recognize that this was a great idea in a couple of years when generative LLM AI goes the way of the NFT.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 39 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Honestly, it probably is a great idea regardless. The plant operated for a very long time profitably. I'm sure it can again with some maintenance and upgrades. People only know three mile island for the (not so disastrous) disaster, but the rest of the plant operated for decades after without any issues.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 15 points 6 days ago (2 children)

with some maintenance and upgrades.

Hopefully we can trust these tech bros to do that properly and without using their usual "move fast and break things" approach.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 18 points 6 days ago

They are only buying 100% of the output. The old owners are still owning and operating it.

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[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It's one of a hell of an old nuclear plant if it's the original three mile island one.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 7 points 5 days ago

It is, yeah. It was in operation until 2019.

[–] TheGalacticVoid@lemm.ee 7 points 5 days ago

LLMs have real uses, even if they're being overhyped right now. Even if they do fail, though, more nuclear power is a great outcome

Once operational, the energy generated is cheap and will still be in demand

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Nfts were a scam from the start something that has no actual purpose utility or value being given value through hype.

Generative AI is very different. In my honest opinion you have to have your head in the sand if you don't believe that AI is only going to incrementally improve and expand in capabilities. Just like it has year over year for the last 5 to 10 years. And just like for the last decade it continues to solve more and more real-world problems in increasingly effective manners.

It isn't just constrained to llms either.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago (15 children)

The creators who made the LLM boom said they cannot improve it any more with the current technique due to diminishing returns.

It's worthless in its current state.

Should be dying out faster imo.

[–] oatscoop@midwest.social 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

One of the major problems with LLMs is it's a "boom". People are rightfully soured on them as a concept because jackasses trying to make money lie about their capabilities and utility -- never mind the ethics of obtaining the datasets used to train them.

They're absolutely limited, flawed, and there are better solutions for most problems ... but beyond the bullshit LLMs are a useful tool for some problems and they're not going away.

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[–] AEsheron@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

I suspect you're right. But there really is never a good way to tell with these kinds of experimental techs. It could be a runaway chain of improvement. Or it is probably even odds that there is a visible and clear decline before it peters out, or just suddenly slams into a beick wall with no warning.

[–] Alpha71@lemmy.world 25 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I had to do a double take to make sure this wasn't an onion article.

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 10 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Different reactor. Unit 2 partially melted down, there's no turning it back on. Unit 1 continued running after Unit 2's failure, and was only shut down because it became economically unviable

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