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[–] soFanzy@lemmy.world 17 points 7 hours ago

I love graphene as much as the next guy, but this article is pretty terrible. Badly researched, just spitting out talking points that are either flat out wrong, not the point of graphene or just scratching the surface. Look up the graphene homepage, if you actually want useful info.

[–] Muffi@programming.dev 11 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I would love to make the switch, but I am certain that absolutely zero of my government mandated apps will run on this thing.

[–] Dop@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

WTF do you mean "gvt mandated apps" !?!

[–] Muffi@programming.dev 8 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Mandated is the wrong word. "Required for absolutely everything" is more precise. In Denmark you need an app called "MitID" to do any kind of digital verification. You can't do online purchases, banking or digital bureaucracy without it.

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 1 points 42 minutes ago

How do people who don't have smartphones do it? Is there some harder roundabout way?

[–] Dop@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

Well sorry to hear that, it sounds like a special kind of hell.

[–] Charger8232@lemmy.ml 6 points 16 hours ago

As a GrapheneOS user, I approve this message.

[–] x00za@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Most important thing for some people: the battery of the pixel sucks balls

[–] sartalon@lemmy.world 2 points 9 minutes ago

I've almost never had an issue. Like ever, unless I forget to set my phone on a charger when I went to bed. And even then, it would just be in the single digits by the end of the second night.

I think I've had my phone die on me twice since I've had it (Pixel 6 Pro).

[–] abrahambelch@programming.dev 16 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

It Feels Almost Like Android... But It Isn't

So what is it?

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 7 points 19 hours ago

I think what they attribute to that "android feel", is google spying on them at every turn.

[–] lightscription@lemmy.world 6 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Unfortunately, Tinder doesn't work and that is helpful to get in touch with the ladies. That app is too hell bent on location data which GOS handles more privately.

NFC should work, it is just scheduled to be deactivated after 3 months if not used for security reasons.

I think GOS is very user friendly and has many positive privacy and security enhancements. I would like to see if they can surpass sandboxed Google Play and officially support other repositories and updaters like Accrescent. Also, a standard way of securing traffic beyond encrypted DNS would be good such as a tor client like Orbot.

Looking into the Veilid ecosystem might also be a source for further development ideas.

[–] ludicolo@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 hours ago

you can setup seperate peofiles and jeep your GOS apps seperate from your open source app profile. that's what I do.

Also accresent is already a part if the GrapheneOS appstore.

[–] camr_on@lemmy.world 15 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

just use grindr instead like I do

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 2 points 6 hours ago

One group of people who ain't suffering from being lonely in today's America

[–] lightscription@lemmy.world -1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

I am sure you are trying to be funny, but I am serious. They won't let me reproduce in the US.

I am not gay or bi. I don't like men. When priests molest little boys (or the FD and PD for that matter; I have verified the convictions) or men get anally raped in prisons (or by the Chicago PD or IDF: also fact) are you still pro-gay?

Fascists use gay to be homophobic against straights. There are violent and abusive gay men. This clown f-ed little boys and young men ---> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wayne_Gacy

[–] PoorPocketsMcNewHold@lemmy.ml 6 points 13 hours ago

GrapheneOS also made me give up my heterosexuality /j

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Android Auto is borked and most camera features

[–] echolalia@lemmy.ml 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Android auto also works fine for me. I haven't used an android phone in years so I can only compair it to apple car play. There are extra configuration steps to make it work but its not hard (just have to read some messages and go through some menus)

Apple car play "just works".

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Comment on GrapheneOS, an Android custom ROM while touting Apple in same thread.

👍

[–] luciddaemon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Android Auto works fine for me and google camera also works fine.

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 16 hours ago

The camera works but I was talking about it but the Google image processing features.

[–] spipau@feddit.org 7 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

If you want to know if an app works, you can start here: https://plexus.techlore.tech/ Still a young project so contributions are welcomed!

If you don't have a Pixel like me, you can check out: https://e.foundation/ Runs since 3 years on my Fairphone 3 and gets better with every update

[–] banana@communick.news 2 points 19 hours ago

Ironically, Plexus currently crashes and won't open on GrapheneOS. Both 2.0.3 on F-Droid and 2.0.6 on IzzyOnDroid.

[–] pirat@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

I'm not sure how to read the Plexus entries, and they don't seem to be clickable. Would you mind explaining how to use the site in a meaningful way?

[–] M500@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Can someone give an example of an app that doesn’t work? I always hear about apps that do work, but is it mostly banking or some other category that doesn’t work typically?

[–] Broken@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Like you said, banking apps. The logic behind that is they use google to security check their apps. A random non-bank example would be the slick deals app. Without play services it would just open then crash.

Many apps use play services for their notification system. So for instance, proton mail works fine but notifications do not.

NFC is not supported, so anything that uses that won't work.

Not an app, but I was surprised that widgets don't work unless you're in the primary profile. Technically they work on any profile, but they randomly get deleted, and frequently. It's a known bug that probably will never get fixed because the source of it comes from stock android.

I will mention that you can have a profile running play services, which gives you access to many apps that wouldnt normally work. And it's sandboxed so it has less impact on your information (I don't know all the specifics but it does limit in some way how much it can snoop into the rest of the OS). Then you can also set up granular controls on your apps to limit them from snooping.

[–] M500@lemmy.ml 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Thanks! I don’t think this will work for me. Where I live, most of the payments are made directly through banking apps by scanning a qr-code.

[–] Broken@lemmy.ml 2 points 16 hours ago

Yeah, that's why I mentioned having a secondary profile. Some stuff like bank apps you just can't get away from so a profile with play services running is a workable solution. If you have a pixel phone already, you can give it a shot. One very nice feature of GOS is that it's super easy to install - and uninstall if it's not for you.

[–] refalo@programming.dev 12 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Anything that uses NFC payments.

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[–] ZebraGoose@sh.itjust.works 81 points 1 day ago (20 children)

Here's a summary of the article and the seven key points mentioned about switching to GrapheneOS:

Summary: The article discusses GrapheneOS, a secure, privacy-focused mobile operating system based on Android. It highlights the benefits of switching to GrapheneOS, its features, compatibility, and user experience. The article also addresses potential concerns and provides information on reverting to standard Android if desired.

The seven things you should know before switching to GrapheneOS:

  1. Compatibility: Currently only supported on Google Pixel devices (Pixel 3 or newer) due to their strong hardware-based security features.

  2. App compatibility: Most apps are compatible, but some may require alternatives. A sandboxed version of Google Play can be installed for popular apps.

  3. User interface: Similar to standard Android, but with enhanced privacy controls and a decluttered, ad-free experience.

  4. Regular updates: Frequent security updates are provided to protect against the latest threats.

  5. Community support: A dedicated community of users and developers is available to offer help and tips.

  6. Reversibility: It's possible to switch back to standard Android if you don't like GrapheneOS.

  7. Privacy and security features: Includes end-to-end encryption, revocable permissions, randomized MAC addresses, and strict app data access controls.

[–] far_university190@feddit.org 4 points 11 hours ago
[–] s08nlql9@lemm.ee 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ty for the summary ChatGPT

[–] ZebraGoose@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Haha no worries 😅 I always appriciate summarys myself so I thought I would pay it forward

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