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(in ref to https://mozilla.social/@mozilla/113153943609185249 )

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[–] P4ulin_Kbana@lemmy.eco.br 2 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

I'm feeling a bit lost. What happened?

[–] davidrevoy@framapiaf.org 2 points 10 hours ago

@P4ulin_Kbana@lemmy.eco.br You can follow the link in the ref and read comments: it's about a leadership decision of Mozilla to close their Mastodon instance. They do this while they invest a lot on AI.
In short, it's Mozilla governance that is going more and more full speed into a "capitalism tech bro" mindset, at the cost of a more and more visible departure of the Free/Libre software community. A decision that I qualify of them being clowns, now. And I parody the meme https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/putting-on-clown-makeup for that.

[–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 6 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Mozilla are doing the same AI integration as all the other browsers, so lemmings have decided that Mozilla is evil now.

[–] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 6 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Which is so stupid. Only a good browser with AI can stop a dead internet filled with AI junk.

[–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

It's an arms race. But now the arms go off randomly and sometimes shoot things behind you. But corporate has spent so much money on it that we can't turn back now

[–] linebyline@bytetower.social 54 points 1 day ago (1 children)

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org A for-profit corporation that absolutely loathes feedback from end users and community members, except when it's dripping with praise for their latest attempt to appease techbro capitalists, is cutting off an avenue for feedback on a platform largely populated by people who violently hate techbro capitalism. I'm surprised it didn't happen sooner.

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 day ago

How did this even happen? Is Mozilla made up entirely of people who didn't get accepted by google?

[–] f4grx@chaos.social 1 points 19 hours ago

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org t'es génial.

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Mozilla is less worse than Google et al, but let's be frank - we need a community-developed browser. Enough of this corporate bullshit.

[–] AkatsukiLevi@lemmy.world 10 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

This is genuinely great, specially since they're using their own web engine. Thanks for sharing, I'll keep a closer eye at the project.

[–] AkatsukiLevi@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

NP! I'd argue Ladybird as well, but given how much donations they're taking from corporate already.... Doubt they'll keep as a 'for the people' browser

[–] csolisr@hub.azkware.net 25 points 1 day ago

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
Tired: posting a meme reaction
Wired: drawing a customized meme of your own

[–] TheRealPomax@mathstodon.xyz 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org I left Mozilla after a decade of working at the Foundation because it was more than obvious that it had no idea wtf it was doing and they were no longer aligned with my moral compass. And they've just kept on reinforcing that over and over the last few years.

[–] Dindonmasker@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Maybe because people who cared left?

[–] TheRealPomax@mathstodon.xyz 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

@Dindonmasker sorry, are you trying to blame individual contributor for the years long failing of the executive team? Because that's what it sounds like, and that'd be quite an amazingly short-sighted thing to say, so I hope that's not what you're saying.

[–] Dindonmasker@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No? I'm just saying that maybe whoever cared more before are no longer there. I have no idea of the structure of mozilla management but if something changed it's because people changed.

[–] TheRealPomax@mathstodon.xyz 1 points 1 day ago

@Dindonmasker unfortunately it's worse than that, the people who cared the most absolutely changed, but not by leaving. Instead they were put at the top, and ran things into the ground.

[–] Pacrat173@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

https://killedbygoogle.com Their list is still smaller than google's at least.

[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

I'd still fuck the fox.

[–] skedarwarrior@techhub.social 10 points 1 day ago

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org Mozilla has become kind of a clown I will admit. But its not 100% evil like Google. Its close, but there's still some traces of goodness left. Or they would embrace webextensions v3 without caring.

[–] ArneBab@rollenspiel.social 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org In the context of this: while many of the actions of @mozilla@mozilla.social feel annoying (i.e. axing FirefoxOS just before it became widespread in South America) and while it doesn’t look like that if you plot a market share which includes the massively growing number of mobile devices with a bundled browser:

Firefox has been mostly keeping its users since 2017.

https://www.draketo.de/software/firefox-usercount

[–] kbal@fedia.io 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

2017 and 2021 it stayed mostly stable at 190 million users

Interesting that they almost managed to stop the decline for a few years there. In 2024 after the recent string of nonsensical decisions it's down to 158 million.

[–] ArneBab@rollenspiel.social 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

@kbal@fedia.io yes.

While they were widely criticized during that time, 2017 to 2022 were actually pretty stable years. And that despite constant uncertainty about the future (“will Google continue to pay?”) and failures to get other revenue sources (AFAIK).
@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @mozilla@mozilla.social

[–] ArneBab@rollenspiel.social 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

@kbal@fedia.io I have the impression that CEO’s and equivalents often forget the importance of the existing userbase.

So instead of making the existing people happy and trying to reach others from that base, they shoot for the big crowd — but without having enough to stand on.
@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @mozilla@mozilla.social

[–] davidrevoy@framapiaf.org 1 points 10 hours ago

@ArneBab@rollenspiel.social Oh yes, my feeling also about it.

@kbal@fedia.io

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org Oh, I hadn't heard… I.. I just don't get how Mozilla keeps making these choices that burn community goodwill.

But your comic is a fun, lighthearted way to represent it. One day that fox of fire will have a good caretaker.

[–] Camus@jlai.lu 2 points 1 day ago

Très beau, c'est cool de voir votre travail ici!

[–] kaelef@beige.party 11 points 1 day ago

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org The web can't afford for Firefox to go away. I really hope someone figures out how to make Mozilla effective and sustainable.

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org They don't deserve something this cute

[–] aligorith@mastodon.nz 9 points 1 day ago

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
Ugh! Firefox just can't seem to catch a break with bad management decisions

[–] charadon@8bit.red 8 points 1 day ago

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org Another one for the Mozilla graveyard!

[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wait I thought we liked Firefox

[–] Vincent@feddit.nl 3 points 1 day ago

I do, but it's also a shame that mozilla.social is shutting down.

[–] yon@sakurajima.moe 5 points 1 day ago

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org You’d make a good politician cartoonist, but I wouldn’t want to wish that upon someone nice.

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org it's a cute drawing tho! 🤩

[–] gmic@piaille.fr 3 points 1 day ago

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org I think of a lot of other references related to Mozilla where this applies too! 😬

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org one more to https://killedbymozilla.com/

[–] guayabito@mastodon.cr 4 points 1 day ago

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org #TrueStory 🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻

[–] nours@mastouille.fr 2 points 1 day ago

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org really great

[–] Lioh@social.anoxinon.de 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org I am quite sure your intentions are not as bad as it seems, but something feels really wrong with that post. #diversity

[–] davidrevoy@framapiaf.org 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

@Lioh@social.anoxinon.de I feel sorry in advance if another meaning than "Mozilla leadership once again are making clown things" can be interpreted from this drawing.

If it is hurting a community. That's not my intention at all with this comic.

Also, if it has something to do with the makeup symbols or the colors of the hair, it is just inspired/inherited from the original meme (src: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/putting-on-clown-makeup ).

Thank you for pointing it, I hope my answer will participate to disambiguate anything wrong.

[–] Lioh@social.anoxinon.de 1 points 1 day ago (3 children)

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org thanks for pointing that out. I did not see the reference and I also did not know the original meme until know (which I think is already quite offensive in itself). I think posts like this are a hit in the face of the queer community and I just don't like them.

Bruder / Schwester das ist ein uraltes Meme, einen Clown beinhaltend, ka was du da reininterpretierst, aber mit falscher Repräsentation von queeren Menschen hat das nix zu tun

[–] Generous1146@beehaw.org 2 points 1 day ago

Mind explaining this to anyone else who's out of the loop?

[–] davidrevoy@framapiaf.org 2 points 1 day ago

@Lioh@social.anoxinon.de I sincerly feel sorry to read it. I hope you'll forgive me for haven't been able to anticipate this particular side effect for the audience not knowing the original meme, or not clicking on the ref. 😔

I really thought it would be read just as a tiny joke in front of a news I had hard time to cope (something that happens too often with Mozilla).

[–] Lioh@social.anoxinon.de 1 points 1 day ago

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org I like the new CEO