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I'm also going viral on mastodon. WTF is going on?! :D

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[–] Otome-chan@kbin.social 14 points 2 years ago (4 children)

The best troll would be to just openly allow actual direct link piracy on /r/piracy. if reddit bans /r/piracy, then it functionally re-privates the sub (the thing they wanted to avoid). And if they allow it, then it's a bastion of actual piracy. win-win!

[–] ilovetamako@lemmy.fmhy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I like the idea of trying to get as many DMCA requests against it as possible so that reddit has to deal with them

[–] Otome-chan@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

they wanted it open lol

[–] OtakuAltair@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Problem is, if it's privated or open, they can still point users to this community

Not possible if it's banned; another would probably take its place

[–] christian@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Never been an /r/piracy user, but this is so obviously the correct response that I feel embarrassed I didn't think of it as soon as I saw this drama being posted here.

[–] worfamerryman@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago

That is a galaxy brain move.

[–] NekoRogue@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

The bootlicking on that post (in a PIRACY sub nonetheless) is wild. Lots of "you don't understand, Reddit is a COMPANY! 😭" I've peeked in on Reddit a bit and I've been seeing those kinds of "won't somebody think of the shaaaareholdersss and adminss" comments on a few posts related to the protest. Things like this insightful little nugget:

"Seems all the reddit hate is based solely on reddit doing something similar to twitter, and I'm supposed to be upset cause "Elon man bad"? Tons of APIs cost money to use... build your own platform that freely allows everyone to scrape all "your" content, lead by example please..."

I wonder how many of those are Reddit employees and bots? They can't all be u/spez alts, can they?

Oh and this is fun too, did you know that we're all LiTeRaLlY extremists over here?

" Lemmy is very far-left. They are literally extremists, I'll not be part of that shit."

Guess Reddit is going to be taken over by alt-right trolls too.

Edit: Still figuring out how the formatting works over here.

[–] TeoTwawki@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Across reddit a lot of astroturfing is going on - its not all real users. Lots of sheep out there, only takes a few shills to steer them in the desired direction by creating the appearance of a majority.

Its the same culture that causes people to type out a post, but then delete it for fear of the reaction for sharing an opinion. Thats something that doesn't seem to happen with Lemmy and I hope the mass of reddit users migrating doesn't bring that with them.

[–] NekoRogue@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

I agree with all of this. I definitely think at least some of them are astroturfing. The mods from r/adviceanimals got kicked and ever since then, they mostly post memes that say things like "the official app isn't so bad, you guys!" We all know u/spez isn't above editing comments for petty reasons and since he got caught, I'm sure he's more careful about not getting caught editing things to suit him now. I wonder if the voting system is rigged, too, at least in some subs.

[–] Huschke@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

We've already seen comments that suspiciously resemble ChatGPT output and ever since reddit keeps mass-restoring my deleted posts and comments I fully expect that most of their praises are from bots.

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Would be fabulous if the only users left on reddit were the alt-right nutters.

[–] Rentlar@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

Reddit becoming voat is not on my bingo card but stranger things have happened this year...

[–] Lorez@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If u don't fight for my right to scrool and upvoot reddits on my iPhone with Apollo, ur a far-right boot-licking troll bot

[–] NekoRogue@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

I see that the trolls I was talking about are managing to find their way to Lemmy. They never have any actual insightful things to say, it's just reducing your arguments to the most simplified version and repeating them back in a childish condescending way. It's almost like...that's not all the protest is about? Not sure if these are just kids trying to be edgy, or if they're working for Reddit, or if they're just u/spez being petty. I try to be an empathetic person, but I have a really hard time understanding thinking it's fun to belittle people for caring about things. It's such a waste of energy. If you need attention, learn a skill and impress people with it, I assure you it's a much more fulfilling way to get people to notice you. I hope these people can get the emotional support they need someday.

[–] lawrxnce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago

Yep, I found a new home here because of your post, so thank you

[–] lasagna@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You wouldn't download a subreddit, would you?

[–] DarkenLM@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

I most definitely did and helped the Data Hoarder archive.

[–] TairikuOkami@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Reddit trolls reddit, it serves them right.

[–] Hiccup@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago

Is the instance giving anyone else timeouts and just sluggish?

Also, is there a group for kali linux and such on lemmy already? I need to start adding back all my groups again. Also curious about NSFW stuff on lemmy.

[–] LaserXP@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Im happy the community is still alive. This sub has been the only place I go to on reddit (aside from other Piracy subreddits). Till death do us part mates

[–] kresten@feddit.dk 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Can someone loop me in. Did reddit admins really do this?

Edit: wording

[–] blindsight@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/35555

This is my first time linking to Lemmy from Lemmy. Hopefully, that works.

Edit: Cool. old.reddit link syntax works, too.

TL;DR: They demodded OP, the founder (I think?), of /r/piracy to force them to reopen. This shows that Reddit thinks it's very important for users to have access to piracy information and a place to discuss piracy on the platform.

This is tacit support for posting piracy on Reddit, and, really, the only reason not to post direct links to pirated content is now gone since the threat of taking the sub private is what "we" want anyway. I suppose you could also get your account banned from Reddit, too.

I'm not a lawyer, but I wonder about legal challenges this opens Reddit to. It would be amazing if Disney now sued Reddit for encouraging piracy of their content. You can definitely trust Disney to be lawsuit happy assholes, right? I'd get a lot of shadenfreud from that.

[–] DarkTides@lemmy.fmhy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I should probably check out mastodon too finally since I've made the plunge into lemmy already.

[–] Rairii@haqueers.com 1 points 2 years ago

@DarkTides @db0 i mean, i'm commenting on this thread from mastodon so...

[–] ElectronSoup@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago

Then pixelfed and complete the holy trinity :D