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One of the Steam Deck's primary advantages over more powerful handheld gaming PCs is its operating system, which is designed to mimic a game console interface within a Linux PC environment. Valve has long planned to bring the OS to other devices, but a recent Steam Deck software update includes the first mention of a rival handheld.

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[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 46 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Im excited for something like this as I would like to see more form factors. tv sticks, tablets, workstations, gaming laptops. I know anyone can do the last two but having a hardware vendor cover the software officialy is sorta a big thing

[–] Blxter@lemmy.zip 19 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Actually a steam tv stick would go crazy never thought of that. Extreme low latency PC streaming to tv.

[–] ThoGot@lemm.ee 24 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Isn't that what the Steam Link tried to do?

[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The Steam Link tried and succeeded at this. My guess is only technical people understood its use-case at the time. For hardware to do well on a large scale it needs to be standalone. You turn it on and immediately see the benefit of it. Can't be dependent on the customer's other hardware.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 3 points 1 month ago

well it will help if you can get many of the same internet streaming apps you have with firetv stick and such. so people might just buy it to steam netflix and be part of the market outside of the ones using the game streaming.

[–] fjordbasa@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It is, but Steam has a habit of iterating, maybe we’ll see an updated Steam Link- like device in the future?

[–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

They abandoned it because they could just build it into TVs.

[–] InputZero@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They didn't abandon it, they opened it up to anything running at least Andriod 8.0 or newer. So basically every Andriod device made since 2015 can run Steam Link, maybe not at a quality seen as appropriate but it'll run.

I'm talking about the hardware.

They stopped making the hardware because they didn't need a dedicated device any more.

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Unfortunately smart TV's are just a step up from potatoes. Having separate hardware is gereally better than a smart TV app

[–] toastal@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago

I wish we could stop with smart TVs. I want a dumb TV with a nice screen & my own hardware without worrying about the data collection

Steam link hardware was junk too.

Just get something with android and you'll have a better experience for all the rest of your TV stuff too.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

Yes, but it really only works at low latency over a wired connection. It's great for video or games where input lag isn't a big deal.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 1 points 1 month ago

yeah and steam had a desktop I think but Im hoping it just sorta being cheaply licensed will work out better for that kind of thing.

[–] GammaGames@beehaw.org 1 points 1 month ago

Loved that thing, I could play party games from downstairs with our 5ghz network. Made college weekends so much fun!

[–] Blxter@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago

I believe so yes (tbh forgot it was a thing) but for example my smart TV does not have a steam link app available for some reason (LGC3) and I would definitely stream to it given the chance. Not sure why the steam app is not available.

[–] coolusername@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

use moonlight. it's free and works well

[–] passepartout@feddit.org 25 points 1 month ago

Oh yes please. I'd still buy a steam deck bc of their hardware support but nonetheless, this is great news for all those other released handhelds that are held back by windows.

[–] MashedTech@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I want to see all of the handhelds that have poor performance because of Windows bloat move to SteamOS and see an improvement. This will be such a huge blow to microsoft, SteamOS will get a bigger market share, because for that form factor it is the best OS! And I hope that developers will make Linux more important in their list because of this. Gaming is slowly going to become even less important on Windows. I want fucking Microsoft to be forced to offer a better Windows experience. I want competition again! Right now, Microsoft can fuck everyone over because they can, I hope that won't be the case anymore.

[–] MashedTech@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

And Valve because it doesn't have investors that yell "More PROFIT RIGHT NOW", they can play in the long game, which other companies cannot do, because of investor pressure. Investor pressure for quick profits is what causes companies to cannibalize themselves and their future success.

[–] Eeyore_Syndrome@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] MashedTech@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Yes, but ideally it's not just up to the enthusiasts. I feel like ideally this will become officially supported by the hardware vendor and in the future the default os on the device! That's how you get market share and people to adopt it.

[–] finickydesert@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago
[–] EvilBit@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

I think they need to do this now before Microsoft does it first. Xbox is flailing and the daylight they can see from there is the Xbox/PC ecosystem. Turning Xbox from a box to a brand that merges PC and console into a fluid system would be the best way to pivot the market and put Sony on the back foot.

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 2 points 1 month ago

Why cant they make a steamos 3.0 iso for anyone to use