cross-posted from: https://jlai.lu/post/9070854
Swiss German doesn't have orthography and üü can absolutely appear.
Edit: They meant Schriftsprache/Schriftdeutsch, which is almost German but without the ß.
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AfaIk, Schweizer Hochdeutsch is not Schwizerdütsch, but a variety of standard German, with the replacement ß->ss.
The language is a variety of German. But there are no real writing rules. Text you see written in Switzerland, e.g. on signage, is practically Hochdeutsch with the needed substitutions of words, like chicken for for example where they don't use the German word.
Written language between people however has no rules and people write as they speak and that's definitely not Hochdeutsch.
Edit: I just read your post again and maybe that's what you meant and I misunderstood you.
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Ah damn, you're probably right. Schriftdeutsch.
Where does the diagram mention grammar?
Orthography. I thought it was a subset of grammar, but no.
I'm not sure what the c with a line on it is but Estonian (või siis Eesti keel) doesnt have it.
Where do you see a 'c with a line on it'? Starting from the 'latin' branch, you end up with Estonian saying no to everything except ä and õ.
First thing left from "start here"
That's a c with a hatschek or caron and Estonian is in the 'no' branch (red).
Ah, it seems my eyes had a malfunction
I just use my innate knowledge of my fellow Europeans to identify the language well enough to point in the general direction which it came from, or maybe using cardinal directions like "south" or "east"
In primarily Irish speaking places you might find TH missing from the orthography entirely.
Similarly, I wonder if ä could show up in English. Such as in diäeresis.
No. For that to be the case you'd need to start pronouncing stuff correctly.
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Swedish doesn't have ø ffs
Edit: sorry my bad, its a "No" link, works as expected.
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