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I’m talking about this sort of thing. Like clearly I wouldn’t want someone to see that on my phone in the office or when I’m sat on a bus.

However there seems be a lot of these that aren’t filtered out by nsfw settings, when a similar picture of a woman would be, so it seems this is a deliberate feature I might not be understanding.

Discuss.

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[–] irotsoma@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yes. Problem is that NSFW has lost its original meaning to a lot of people. NSFW was originally to hide things that might be controversial to be visible on your screen in a workplace, so it should be fairly conservative. Beachwear would 100% not be safe to look at in a work environment.

But now a lot of places are using it to determine what is safe to look at not in front of your boss, but in front of your kids or in public. That is a much different thing. NSFW flags should not be used to restrict kids from seeing it, just your boss. There needs to be a separate flag for hiding things from kids. And because social norms are different in different societies, there should be even more granularity in the flags. Nudity is just one thing that is NSFW.

NSFW should be reserved for blocking things that I don't want to suddenly appear on my screen when I'm browsing the Internet on my break at work when I'm allowed to browse the Internet, but it wouldn't be good for a naked picture to show up on my screen suddenly.

[–] Moneo@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago
[–] Qkall@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago

Op, if my HR dept saw me scroll by that pic... It would be an annoying conversation. Like while I'll agree, there's no nudity... I would get in trouble. I've left some chatroom due to this... People just don't understand that I don't care but the folks cutting my checks will make a thing of it

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 3 points 4 months ago (3 children)

As a huge Anime fan, with some catching up to do, I've blocked every anime adjacent community, because NSFW filtering isn't applied as strictly as I would prefer, on the Anime communities here.

I enjoy a good sexually charged image as much as the next person, perhaps more.

But I scroll Lemmy in front of my impressionable daughter sometimes.

I would like to catch up on Anime recommendations, here.

But, to me, it's just not worth the risk of suddenly needing to explain to my daughter why Faye Valentine's parents didn't love her enough to buy her full sets of clothing.

[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

!anime@ani.social mostly posts key visuals and posters, episodes discussions, and news. Stuff you'd see in public.

The actual fanart side of things tends to stick to !anime_art@ani.social and !animepics@reddthat.com

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[–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Yes.

The tag is Not Safe For Work. I'd say that if you were to look at this in most work places you'd probably be speaking to HR within the hour...

[–] leftzero@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (40 children)

Look, this whole thing is absurd like a Monty Python sketch, but much less funny.

Is this picture not safe for work..?

La maja desnuda, Francisco de Goya

How about this one..?

Les demoiselles d'Avignon, Picasso

And what about this photograph of an actual naked beaver I posted the other day..?

An absolute actual naked beaver

For me, all three could get me in trouble at work (because they clearly have nothing to do with the work I should be doing), and none of them would get me in trouble at the bus (though there's plenty of other pictures in Lemmy I wouldn't want to be caught watching in the bus to avoid embarrassing myself or others), but that's me, and that's why I don't use lemmy at work and if I use it on the bus I use a different account and only on communities I'm subscribed to.

But deciding whether to watch these pictures or risk watching others like them at work or the bus is my responsibility, not lemmy's, or the community moderators', or their posters'.

If I'm worried about “not suitable for work” I should be old enough to work, which means I should have a minimum of self control and be responsible for my own actions.

If I'm caught at work or on the bus with an “unsuitable” image on my phone because I was browsing some site that might contain images of that kind I'm not going to blame that site, or whoever posted that image, and I'm not going to demand of them to adapt to my particular circumstances and mark, censor, or remove any content I might find unsuitable.

That's my job, not theirs. They're not my fucking nanny, and I shouldn't need one.

Attempting to shift the blame for my own actions to the people providing me with this content (and for free, no less!) would be childish, petty, and disingenuous, to say the least.

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[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

I am of the opinion that there should be more granularity to NSFW than a simple binary.

I'm a fan of how e621 does things:

rating:s (safe)

rating:q (questionable)

rating:e (explicit,)

But I would add another:

rating:t (traumatic, known elsewhere as Not Safe For Life)

Call it "purity" and allow users to filter posts to allow or block any arbitrary combination of purity levels (wallhalla, formerly wallbase, does this if you want to see how it could work).

[–] weew@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago (7 children)

No. That's just a fully clothed character. Any workplace where that would be considered "NSFW" is the kind of place where getting caught browsing Lemmy at all is NSFW.

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[–] mrmorganiser@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago
[–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (10 children)

If the NSFW limit was put on "image of a woman wearing shorts and sports bra", would you run to shut down the break room TV when they showed such obscene NSFW things like the Olympic games with their skimpy track and field and beach volleyball outfits? All of those communities would obviously need to be marked NSFW on Lemmy too.

And while NSFW indeed does come from the words "Not safe for work", it isn't "blur everything that wouldn't be appropriate for my coworkers or boss to see me browse during work time".
Getting caught watching episodes of My Little Pony would be pretty inappropriate and embarrassing during working hours as well.

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[–] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago (14 children)

This is a weird thread... Lots of people really give a shit about what others think about the content they consume. There's also a lot of strange presumptions about people who watch anime and how it's creepy when adults watch it. If you were just described above, maybe you should reevaluate some things.

If you would get in trouble for this image on your phone at work, then you really should not be on Lemmy at work. I'm sure there are perfectly acceptable threads for your workspace on Lemmy, but then again, people used to read the articles in playboy magazine. Also, the example image is only sexual if you sexualize it, which you are doing by saying it should be marked nsfw. If the local news stations are comfortable showing gymnasts and swimmers and volleyball players in their respective uniforms, then why should this be any different? Lastly, if that drawing is making you uncomfortable, I don't know how to help you because this is so so so incredibly far from the worst content you can find on this site. Maybe you shouldn't be on here at all if that's the case.

It's only weird if you make it weird and this whole thread is making it weird.

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[–] Moghul@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

NSFW has become code for porn, effectively. My friend and I use NSFO for 'not porn, maybe not even nudity, but not necessarily appropriate for the office'. Maybe that's what we need. A second filter.

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[–] Shimitar@feddit.it 1 points 4 months ago (3 children)

That would be perfectly acceptable where I live and work. No nudity, no tits, no genitals, move along...

On the other hand, anime in general is relegated to teens more than not here, so any anime would raise eyebrows if seems browsing from my phone by others given I am definitely not a teen by large.

YMMV, but different cultures different sensibility.

Should Lemmy be a MCM or a MCD? I think this should be the question.

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