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Theory: The founders came to Earth in 1982 as documented by John Carptenter in The Thing (hackertalks.com)

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thing_(1982_film)

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Founders - Change shape
Thing - Change shape

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Founders - live in a giant soup and can split off from the soup at will
Thing - Can divide up the shape at any time into autonomous functional groups

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Founders - Fly in space ships
Thing - Flies in massive space ship

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Thing - Doesn't like fire
Founders - who likes fire?

I posit that the founders are the Thing, but perhaps a group of founders operating in special operations mode. Or they could be children out on founder Rumspringa like Odo was.

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[–] canis_majoris@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 months ago

Founder Rumspringa is my favorite new term. Thanks for this.

I wonder how violent one of those would be. They were basically infants thrown into space with nothing but genetic instructions to eventually get back to where they came from. Odo and Laas are the only two yeeted offspring we know about, and they were generally neutral in manner towards humanoids, with Laas generally preferring to avoid them and not entirely agreeing with how dogmatic the Founders are.

I definitely would be more on the spec-ops team side of things myself, unless the Founder on Rumspringa was really jilted by humanoids and was just fucking 'em up for a laugh.

[–] maniacalmanicmania@aussie.zone 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Founders don't need space ships to get around in space, although I'm not sure how fast they can travel without one.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They don't? I only recall one time in Accession was it mentioned. For the entirety of the rest of the series they were taxied around in spacecraft, even with a few plot points of them being stranded on planets.

[–] canis_majoris@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

In Chimera (which takes place after Accession) they bumped into a changeling flying alongside their runabout in a form that was space-faring. I guess the argument would be if there exists a creature encountered by a Founder that can travel at (high) warp via some kind of biological or entirely different means than subspace manipulation.