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FinalSpark builds processor from 16 organoid brain cells (www.allaboutcircuits.com)

submitted 5 months ago by SpeechToTextCloud@discuss.tchncs.de to c/technology@lemmy.world

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Large Language Models made from cells incoming...

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[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago (1 children)

An organoid is not a single cell—each one can have thousands of neurons, depending on the size.

[–] SpeechToTextCloud@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 5 months ago

Thanks for the clarification.

[–] Lmaydev@programming.dev 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Wetware is my new least favourite word.

But super interesting tech.

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago

Very Cronenberg

[–] 0x0@programming.dev 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Who provided the brain cells?

[–] SpeechToTextCloud@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 5 months ago

They use stem cells derived from human skin

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Abby Normal.

[–] ggppjj@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

[–] aBundleOfFerrets@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 months ago

Can’t wait till we get braincell PMICs

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 months ago

ah sweet, manmade horrors beyond my comprehension!

[–] aodhsishaj@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

I have no mouth but I must scream

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago

Can we run Doom on them

[–] MonkderDritte@feddit.de -1 points 5 months ago

I saw this here a few days ago already.

[–] Bookmeat@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago

Talk about going backwards...

[+] sugartits@lemmy.world -31 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Yay, yet more disgusting Frankenstein science. Just what we need.

[–] KryptonNerd@slrpnk.net 18 points 5 months ago (3 children)

What's wrong with it?

[–] Khanzarate@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago

Well they remembered the plot of Frankenstein and boldly applied it to reality to become afraid of a new thing.

[–] RageAgainstTheRich@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

16 brain cells. That is basically an entire average right winger.

[–] sugartits@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

What's wrong with putting human brain cells into processors?

Really?

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Define your position instead of pretending it's so obvious it doesn't need to be explained, it's just a way to dodge the question.

Do you think it's sentient or something? You don't get thought and emotions by dumping cells in a vat and stirring it with a stick either.

[–] sugartits@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I have defined my position elsewhere. You are free to find it in this thread if you care, I lack the motivation to type it again.

Turning off notifications on this thread now as I'm bored of people being assholes (you weren't one of them).

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.de 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I assume your imaginary friend told you to be angry at this?

[–] sugartits@lemmy.world -5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

No, I'm able to form my own opinions.

Try it some time.

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.de 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I just did. I formed the opinion, that you are an asshat.

[–] sugartits@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

slow clap

Well done. Your mother must be so proud of your ability to pointlessly "insult" people you disagree with instead of even attempting to see the other side.

[–] iegod@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

There is nothing presented by you that is in good faith here.

[–] sugartits@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago

I wasn't asked to present anything or elaborate. I instead was insulted.

But sure, if that's how you want to justify it, you go right ahead.

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.de 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Dude, you set the tone with "disgusting Frankenstein science". That's not how you start a nuanced discussion. If you want me to "see the other side" you should have made an effort to actually communicate something beside "progress bad"

[–] sugartits@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Using human brain cells to power processors is fine with you?

Those "human brain cells" is what makes us, us. It's what makes humans human.

Growing them in a lab to put into the PlayStation 10's CPU (or whatever) is a disgusting perversion and raises very real ethical questions.

How many cells until we go from CPU to 'living being'? Do these cells feel pain? When would they get the capability? How would we even know?

You could have just thought about it for a second, as actually, "Frankenstein science" sums it up pretty well.

Do you understand now?

So yes, there is a very real downside to this "progress" and saying stupid shit about imaginary friends to a stranger online in a pathetic attempt to insult won't make them go away. But you do you, I guess, 'dude'

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.de 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Wow, you really made an effort here to sound extra condescending. To answer your questions.

We use human neurons for lots of stuff, mainly to research how they work, but also to understand neuronic activities in general. We also have created those organoids for a while, so this is nothing new. In fact, they are so common they even appeared in show The Big Bang Theory.

Second, they can't feel pain and never will. These are HIGHLY specialized cells, who rely on other cells and nerves between them to realize a feeling of pain, and even then they can only process it when they have build the necessary structures, which requires millions of neurons alone. They will never turn into something alive.

You could have just thought about this for a second, but you chose to disparage the work of scientists because it doesn't fit into your narrow moral construct.

Do you understand now?

[–] sugartits@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Wow, you really made an effort here to sound extra condescending. To answer your questions.

My first interaction with you was a negative one when you decided to be a condescending dickhead instead if interacting with me in good faith. Ergo, you got it back.

Don't be all surprised pickachu.gif when you get treated in the same way. Dickhead.

Edit: I'm blocking you now. I won't see your response. Continue to be an asshole if you want, I won't be wasting another second on you.

[–] RageAgainstTheRich@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Okay but not every opinion your silly little brain conjures is worth space in a comment section. Including that one.

[–] sugartits@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Nobody has a gun to your head forcing you to be rude to strangers online.

But here we are.

[–] RageAgainstTheRich@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

And nobody forced you to be stupid in the comments either. But still you post.