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[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 5 months ago

When articles were published about the EU Commission’s horrifyingly undemocratic approach, Ylva Johansson’s office at the European Commission responded by advertising on the platform X (formerly Twitter). They targeted advertisements (pro Chat Control) so that decision-makers in different countries would see them, but also so that they would not be seen by people suspected to be strongly against the proposal. The advertising was also targeted on the basis of religious and political affiliation and thus violated the EU’s own laws regarding micro-targeting. ...

There was no technology that could scan communication without looking at it. Parts of the Council of Ministers therefore proposed that scanning should be excluded for politicians, the police and intelligence services, as well as anything classified as ‘professional secrets.’ Obviously, there were politicians who were afraid that their secrets would leak, but who had nothing against mass surveillance of the broader population.

Sounds very slimy all around

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

In the EU it's only a recurrent proposal by right wing collectives, in the US it's reality since time, there the privacy rights are inexistent. Privacy laws in the EU are not perfect, but light years away compared to the ones of the US. In the EU surveillance of privacy data only possible by the police in crime investigations against a person with an court order, by law. Nothing to do with the mass surveillance by private companies for commercial reasons like in the US.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

One huge mistake that EU made was to rely on US equipment and software firms to build out infrastructure. I think there's a bit of a recognition of that now with the push for using open alternatives like nextcloud, but that really should've been the approach from the start.

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yes, in part. This is the reason because I prefer to use EU products in the ambit of privacy. Even so, the EU has pretty well forced large corporations to greatly restrict their surveillance practices, with respect to their services in the US. A good example is M$, with only 1 tracking cookie on its page in Germany, vs more than 100 trackers in M$ US

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, EU definitely does a far better job than US in this regard.

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yes, but still a lot of things to do.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Indeed, hopefully more open tech takes root going forward. :)

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Agree, but also soft and infrastructure in general. The EU has first-class products and only few of these are known. The only EU browser is Vivaldi (Norway/island), the other one, UR (French browser) is dead since years. Instead of this infamous Imgur spyware (which all people use), using for image and file sharing/hosting, the way better vgy.me (GB) FileCoffee (the best) NL, other companies like KDE (Germany), Proton (Suiss), Tuta (Germany), MetaGer search (Germany), etc.. All of these are way more private than most US alternatives.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago

very much agree

[–] AnAnonymous@lemm.ee 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

I didn't see what's the point into wanting to catch pedophiles if the elite are already a bunch of them.

I bet it's just an excuse for something else like avoiding losing the power.

BTW what happened to lolita express logs?

Let me guess.. nothing..

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Nobody in the pro-surveillance camp wants to actually catch pedophiles, that is just one of those "nobody can argue against it" excuses they have been using for ages.

[–] HumanPerson@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Are you saying you DON'T want to protect the children??? You monster! /s

Edit: "Are you saying 9/11 didn't change everything, because 9/11 changed everything" --Peter Griffin (I may have the quote wrong, but it was something like that)

[–] Scolding0513@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago

pizzagate. and jeffery epstein logs yeah

[–] funn@lemy.lol 7 points 5 months ago

For several years Kutcher lobbied the European Commission (until he was forced to resign as chairman of Thorn’s board after defending his acting colleague Danny Masterson when he was convicted of rape). He held meetings with others at the European Commission and had an extra close relationship with the Commission’s Eva Kaili (until she was convicted of bribery).

😂 two convicts trying to protect from crime & other criminals

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 3 points 5 months ago

Woah, didn't expect Ashton Kutcher