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But I like feeling like a real manly man when I eat my real manly meat in a real manly way with my real manly bros, surely that's worth a few hundreds thousands human lives a year ?
(And btw, plant-based diets could also save 100 million animal lives a year)
I think it you want to see the environmental benefits, is less of saving animal lives and more ensuring that 100 million animals a year never exist?
Edit: Not sure what is controversial about this. We stop eating meat to stop farming of livestock. No livestock lives are saved, just new animals aren't born into the mincer.
Is this true of fake meats?
All plant-based foods, whole-foods or not, have lower emissions than animal products
EDIT with a source:
Transitioning to plant-based diets (PBDs) has the potential to reduce diet-related land use by 76%, diet-related greenhouse gas emissions by 49%, eutrophication by 49%, and green and blue water use by 21% and 14%, respectively, whilst garnering substantial health co-benefits
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Plant-based foods have a significantly smaller footprint on the environment than animal-based foods. Even the least sustainable vegetables and cereals cause less environmental harm than the lowest impact meat and dairy products [9].
Preach! The whole foods plant based diet is the healthiest.
Make plants free to eat then.
It's not possible to make them free. Do you think plants grow on trees? Don't be ridiculous
At least subsidise it, like my govrrnment does (Germany)
200,000 extra people alive? I'm sure they'll be happy but that's going to do a lot of environmental damage from meeting their needs and other activity
If that 200k includes you, do you mind not being saved so that you won't be the cause to environmental damage?
Everybody wants to go to the party. nobody wants to stay and clean up.
Yes but we'll tell all 200,000 to go vegan or else we'll go back to killin em.