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[–] ptz@dubvee.org 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I tried a few of the federated magazine links they listed, but I can't resolve them in Lemmy. I know Lemmy doesn't do person follows (yet?), so if that's how they're presented, that makes sense.

Are they working in Mastodon ?

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I spot-checked a couple of them on Mastodon, and I can call up their profiles without an issue.

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Must be a Lemmytation, then. (I'll see myself out lol).

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

siiiiiiiiiiiiigh

But yeah, federation between Mastodon and Lemmy is pretty unidirectional. Users on (most) Mastodon instances can use their accounts to post to Lemmy and follow Lemmy users, but it doesn't really work in the other direction.

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's what I've noticed. At one point, I recall being able to at least search for a Mastodon user from Lemmy and have them come up in search results (no posts and couldn't follow). I just spot checked that, and it doesn't seem to do that anymore. I know little about Mastodon so can't even speculate which side the problem may be on.

One day I figure it'll be a two way street.

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

At one point, I recall being able to at least search for a Mastodon user from Lemmy and have them come up in search results (no posts and couldn’t follow).

Hmm, I think that still works provided the Mastodon user has interacted with Lemmy in some way. It will pull up their bio and posts/comments made on Lemmy, but that's it.

I think the difficulty lies in the way the two platforms treat user accounts. On Mastodon, it's pretty straightforward - a user is a user.

On Lemmy, the users are users, and the community federates to Mastodon as a "group" that boosts/retweets every single post and comment that users make to that community. It's not really ideal, but I'm not sure if it can be improved considering the radically different structure of each platform. This is what the Quark's feed looks like on Mastodon:

A screenshot of @quarks@startrek.website as seen on Mastodon, showing the various users being "boosted".

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 3 points 5 months ago

Interesting. Could be they've never interacted with Lemmy then. I just tried to pull up George Takei's Mastodon account from Lemmy, and no results. (@georgetakei@universeodon.com). I vaguely recall searching for another user in the past (months ago), and they did come up in search. Unless I'm just doing it wrong (always a possibility).

It's not really ideal, but I'm not sure if it can be improved considering the radically different structure of each platform.

Yeah. I don't know what changes would need to be made to Lemmy to support following users. There is a person_follow table in the DB, though, so maybe the framework is there but incomplete?