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"It would be great if people had to buy more of the thing," says guy who makes money selling the thing.

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[–] angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't disagree (or at least there should be a disc drive-included version and the ability to connect any USB Blu-Ray drive,) but obviously GameStop has a motive here.

And I think disc based games should have a legal requirement to have a playable version of the game on disc.

[–] kiranraine@reddthat.com 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I can see them forced to have some form of resellable media Ala switch maybe. But disc's as others have stated I think are on the way out. Esp bc they're so easily scratched and everything else....like good for a time but should've had something else come in once cartridges caught back up in price. They were always quicker by a long shot....it's just that memory prices weren't there in the 90s or until now even really. If I don't like or don't want a game I want some way to sell it off and can't do that digitally bc they won't equate it to the same thing as selling a used copy XD

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I want a return to cartridges, like the switch.

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[–] Techmaster@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

They should keep putting whip holders in cars.

[–] dingus@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I thought GameStop was going all in on NFTs and bragging about how it was going to revolutionize the gaming space because you could be more "invested" in the things because you really "own" (hahahaha, fucking as if) your own copy.

Oh, wait, *checks notes

They totally are winding that down and going "whoopsie doodles!"

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2023/08/gamestop-citing-regulatory-uncertainty-winds-down-its-crypto-and-nft-wallet/

Ryan Cohen making a quick spin because he's a fucking idiot, and the only thing he has to sell is an "idea" of a company that respects its consumers. GameStop ain't it Superstonkers. This guy literally went from "You'll be buying all your games as NFTs at GameStop" to "Errm, yeah, we need physical drives, you know for the gamers, not so we can continue ripping people off with used games." What a fucking joke. He didn't care about physical media six months ago because he was all-in on NFTs.

GameStop gonna get Toys 'R' Us'd hard. If this is the best Cohen's got right now, they've got nothing.

[–] wtfeweguys@lemmy.whynotdrs.org 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The regulatory environment isnt doing the NFT-based game ownership model any favors.

[–] dingus@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

NFTs and how they only hold enough data to point to a URL aren't doing the model any favors. NFTs have been a joke since they were initially released. They don't show ownership of an item, they show a re-direct to a URL where an item you might be able to claim is yours exists.

The people who bought into the idea of "smart contracts" in NFTs got taken for a fucking ride. There's simply not enough BITS to be able to store such data within an NFT. The best they can do is a URL.

https://www.enchant.com/what-is-nft-ownership

[–] wtfeweguys@lemmy.whynotdrs.org 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah I dunno man. NFTs at least allow for a softening of the walls in the garden. The potential is there for fun and interesting ideas like interoperability between games and game assets, and 3rd party platforms for buying, selling, and interacting with games and game assets.

At minimum it’s a combined digital proof of purchase and login credentials that you can custody yourself and transfer/sell at will without being forced to do so through the makers’ infrastructure.

People shitting on it seem to default to an oversimplified idea of what they are and can be, and a bad faith superiority on top.

That’s not something I get down with. I like new tech. I like experimentation. And I like seeing where things go rather than assuming I already know.

[–] dingus@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

I can own digital files just fine without needing all that unnecessary bullshit. It's the copyright cabal that says I don't "own" them.

Funny, because I have the files stored on a physical drive. If that drive is destroyed, so are the items stored on it. Ergot, data is real and physical. You can already own it physically. NFTs are actually just one more way for wall street to justify the bullshit ways copyright doesn't work.

Because nothing is stopping digital "ownership" from existing as it currently exists, except people who don't like the idea that data can be copied infinitely at no cost.

This is why I never took off my pirate hat, because it's just a bunch of tomfoolery to make you think things don't already work this way. They do, computing always allowed data to be copied infinitely. It's jerks who try to code locks to hide them behind who are the problem.

It's also why I buy games at GOG, because they respect this. They sell games with no DRM and understand that this means piracy will happen, but do it anyway because it's the right thing to do.

Copy that floppy, motherfucker.

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Obviously, GameStop has a vested interest in discs sticking around, but it feels like that ship has sailed. Can't remember the last time I bought a physical game and it wouldn't surprise me if the next generation of consoles do away with disc drives altogether. Not really sure how to feel about that. Kind of sad having grown up using discs, but at the same time, it just feels inevitable that consoles are going to move to digital-only distribution.

[–] xtremeownage@lemmyonline.com 5 points 1 year ago

Honestly, I am all good with getting rid of the drives.

I hardly ever touch CDs these days. I keep a spare USB reader, for making a backup copy of a music CD or movie DVD/Blueray, which I use, maybe twice a year.

I have boxes of DVDs and Blu-ray in the garage, and I don't ever use them. Matter of fact, if I wanted to use them, I'd have to go find a blueray player to actually play them with.

I do all of my gaming on PC, and I don't think I have physically purchased a game in over a decade. Steam/GoG are both quite nice.

[–] Quentinp@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

I have an XBox One S (and a PC) - really hits home when in Game Stop with my kids and they were looking around (mainly for figures and such), and i'm like "there's nothing for me here". Of course I haven't bought a physical PC title in over 10 years now that I think of it. I feel for the shop owners, they haven nothing for me to buy and I used to like going to shop around. Come to think of it I used to go to book stores quite often too, but not since i got my first kindle.

I did recently re-buy an Xbox 360 and it is kind of nice to browse second hand shops and such and just pickup a game that I can just play without internet etc.

[–] cloudless@feddit.uk 4 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Yeah keep that mindset and follow Blockbuster's fate.

[–] TwilightVulpine@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

In retrospect there were some advantages to Blockbuster compared to streaming services where stuff disappears every day.

[–] dingus@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Six months ago Cohen didn't give a flying fuck about disc drives because he was selling the idea that you would soon buy all your games from GameStop on an NFT marketplace that they recently had to shut down because the SEC is cracking down on NFTs as Securities.

He gives a fuck now because his golden goose got shot in the head.

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[–] senoro@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Look, I love having a blu ray player embedded into my console. But the fact of the matter is, a lot of these consoles have decently high end blu ray players in, and they are expensive. Consider the fact that low end consoles such as Xbox Series S are probably losing money for every sale. Asking them to tack on another feature means they either increase the price of the console or lose even more money on every console sale.

You should have the option to select a digital or a disc version of a console. Maybe even be able to pay extra to upgrade the blu ray player inside your console to a higher quality or more capable one for those who want them.

[–] BigTrout75@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I kept hoping that Sony would do a last hurrah with discs and make a console that plays them all. But with discs being pretty much antiquated at this point, I don't think it's going to happen.

[–] gk99@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sony management didn't even see a point to backwards compatibility until recently and still can't be bothered to figure out PS3 emulation. It's easily the console's greatest flaw imo.

[–] nodiet@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago

Looking at RPCS3, it seems like most PS3 games wouldn't run well on PS5 without dedicated, PS3-like hardware.

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