DeSantis Rejected $350 Million in Climate Funding Before Hurricane Idalia | Now his state is suffering from a storm fueled by climate change. : climate

[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 29 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I live in Florida and this guy is a fucking plague on the state. But that’s what happens when your state is a punching bag and piggy bank for grifter politicians. Businesses and politicians here work from an ethics book that is all blank pages.

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

But that’s what happens when your state is a punching bag and piggy bank for grifter politicians.

It's actually just what happens when people vote for Republicans. They believe climate change is a hoax and they use it to rile up their base.

[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@kbin.social 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What's the difference?

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago

There are some grifter Democrats as well, but most Democrats generally take climate change and the environment seriously. Most Republicans don't.

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemm.ee 26 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Fuck everything to do with FL.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 36 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's a state where just under half the population has a willingness to do the right thing, but is gerrymandered and suppressed out of power. I don't like abandoning allies just because they're a local minority.

[–] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 10 months ago

That's a really sweet and insightful way of seeing it, thanks.

[–] Treczoks@kbin.social 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I can actually understand that he denied to accept the funding. It's hard to claim that climate change is a hoax on one side, and on the other side take money to fix the problems caused by this "non-existent" issue.

[–] conquer4@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

That hasn't stopped republicans before, like denying covid exists, but I'll take that covid money.

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Let's offer the funding directly to individuals. We'll call the program something fun like "Biden Bucks" or "Brandon Aid". The conservatives can choose to suffer while normal people will still be able to get the aid they need.

Conservatives would gladly shoot their own toes off if the disturbance would upset the normal people.

[+] Cossacks@lemm.ee -8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The political climate is rough down here. Neither side looks appealing, I feel like the blues haven't put a competitive pick up for a long time.

[–] hakizu@feddit.de 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

tbh even a sack of rice is more appealing to me than DeSantis

[–] stephen01king@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago

At least you can cook the sack of rice during emergencies.

[–] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 10 months ago

I hope we see Biden respect Republican/undecided voters that can be swayed. I've seen enough from his campaign messaging to give me hope that he will.

[+] Compactor9679@lemm.ee -17 points 10 months ago (2 children)

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[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemm.ee 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You're obviously too dumb to understand the difference.

[–] Caitlynn@feddit.de 2 points 10 months ago

Just not that frequent

[+] Zolidus@lemmy.world -18 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Cause that funding would have prevented that hurricane...

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 12 points 10 months ago (4 children)

It can help limit how hot the water gets, and therefore how quickly future storms intensify.

[–] Zolidus@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Oh, i got that. Wasnt saying that we shouldnt be working towards fixing the issue, was more a comment on the wording of the article like it would have prevent this particular storm lol. Was sarcasm mostly.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It's really hard to be sarcastic in a way that doesn't come across as the denial crowd. I tend to avoid it for that reason.

[–] Chriskmee@lemm.ee 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I'm curious, what could Florida do to reduce ocean temperatures with this money?

[–] Kage520@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I just saw a video that showed it's possible the pollution that cargo ships were emitting were actually seeding enough clouds to somewhat limit the sunlight that hit and warmed the ocean. This effect stopped recently when they were ordered to stop emitting so much of that pollution.

If it's true they were actually helping accidentally, we could spray ocean water and the salt could actually seed clouds in the same way.

If it works, it would be like a bandaid on climate change to keep the ocean temps a few degrees cooler for awhile.

[–] Chriskmee@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

That's an interesting idea, but not something I would expect Florida to have much say in.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

They can limit their own greenhouse gas emissions, by doing things like subsidizing the conversion of homes which currently use fossil fuels for heating, hot water heating, and cooking to not do so, as well as subsidize solar panels on home roofs.

This won't lower temperatures from where they are now, but it does reduce the future increase.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 3 points 10 months ago

Also, it let's people know the issue is serious. If places like Florida that are suffering the effects of climate change already don't take it seriously, when it's to their benefit now, why should other places do anything when it doesn't affect them yet.

Of course they should, and it will.

[–] MisterD@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If they would extract heat from the air or even the water, it would actually help. Not by leaps and bounds but it would at least be carbon negative.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Not to any meaningful degree: the heating from CO2 emitted when your burn coal for energy is about 100000x more than the heat produced from the burning.

That's why the big action which needs to happen is to stop burning fossil fuels.

[–] MisterD@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I was thinking about heat pumps. 300% efficiency

They are electric and could be carbon negative depending on the source of electricity

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 1 points 10 months ago

Unless it's BECCS, the best they're going to be is not adding CO2 to the atmosphere. That's better than burning stuff, but not actually removing CO2

[–] Chriskmee@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

In all honesty, it sounds nice and I am not against the idea, but I really have a hard time seeing it having any measurable effect.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 2 points 10 months ago

Each tiny drop on its own raises the water level an imperceptible amout. Together they fill a lake

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It can help limit how hot the water gets

Huh?

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 6 points 10 months ago

Greenhouse gases added to the atmosphere are what is causing warming:

Spend money on avoiding the need to burn stuff to generate electricity, heat homes, heat water, or cook, and you can prevent them from being added to the atmosphere, preventing some of the increase in temperature.

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