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Based on this chart, electric car is a best way to burn calories

Maybe the most surprising thing here is that regular biking is still twice as efficient as e-biking even given our mediocre metabolic efficiency and a physique that isn’t exactly designed for the bicycling motion.

Really had to drop that car speed down to make a meaningful chart huh?

Looks like trains are about 50wh/km

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/most-energy-efficient-mode-zero-emission-urban-transport-kme%C5%A5

I couldn't find any info on planes, but that'd be interesting to see how massive that would be too.

Yeah, micro mobility is great on paper when you’re young and live in an accessible city with flat topography. Years ago I became (and still am) a bicycle commuter and I am ENTIRELY SICK OF IT. I want a fucking car. I am tired of biking in the rain and the snow and the cold. It fucking sucks.

Also If I didnt have the ability to purchase an e-bike recently I’d be fucked with the terrain of the place I am currently stuck living (and even that doesn’t quite cover the situation).

Also I am tired of minor injuries compounding year over year due to the simple fact that I am using my body as both the engine and support structure to move myself, vehicle and cargo around just to live.

It was fun 10 years ago but now I’m just like give me a fucking cargo van.

The car is correctly represented, about 0.15 KWh / km is what one gets.

However, the positioning of the e-bike looks strange to me. I've looked at previous studies and the e-biker has always been first in efficiency - because the efficiency of a motor far exceeds the efficiency of human digestion and muscles, while weight and speed remain comparable to an ordinary cyclist.

I think someone has calculated food energy incorrectly, or assumed that e-bikes move faster than they do. :)

This would be much more efficient if it had other transportation as well.

Like non-electric cars, trains, subways, etc.

It's not too hard to get their efficiency as well.

NEXT DAY EDIT: Should've looked, there's actually a handy chart showing the energy efficiencies of a whole bunch of vehicles and modes of transport just straight up on Wikipedia. This article. Comparing the km/MJ column, we can see:

Walking 4.55

Velomobile with enclosed recumbent: 12.35 (there wasnt a figure for just regular biking)

Solar car: 14.93

Tesla Model 3: 1.76

General Motors EV1: 1.21

All combustion engines are below 1, but here's a few:

VW Passat: 0.33 Cadillac CTS-V: 0.17 Renault Clio: 0.42

There's a whole bunch of other stats though so I suggest checking the table

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This should be shown in Km/Wh so the more efficient the modes of travel show as bigger bars.

While I like this chart, it's useless without the tradeoff. It also needs to map speed to time spent. What is being given up for improved efficiency? The inflection point is how you move people from point A to point B.

This data needs to be normalized by speed or realistic range/day. Otherwise it's pretty meaningless.

Now do one where you A) normalize this to the same trip distance (not speed, so that these choices for a single trip become meaningfull) and B) convert the kWh into CO2 emissions, including the emissions in growing and transporting the various power and food production methods used (coal to solar, locally produced veggies-air shipped beef)

Energy efficiency and carbon footprint are very different things - pretty sure the carbon footprint of 15 big macs (8500kcal) is substantially greater than 1L of gasoline (let alone an electric grid equivalent)

Interesting. I've never owned an electric car, but just guesstimating based on those numbers, my daily commute would cost something like 25 cents in electricity. Not too shabby.

I did buy an ebike a few years back and watched to see how much the bill went up, but frankly never noticed any change. At 2 cents per day, it's basically a rounding error relative to other electrical usage, so that makes sense to me now.

Let me just travel 30km to the shops by foot and carry shopping home another 30km back again

Thanks a lot for linking the source!

Where's the gas car on here? How about steam locomotive?

If I've got to go 300+ miles through the US I'm probably not going on foot or by human power.

This should include gas cars too which are ungodly inefficient

EBikes are awesome. I live in a hilly area where riding is tough. EBikes allows people of all ages and abilities to get out. Even with the assistance you still burn calories... as long as it's assisted peddling and not the illegal bikes I see delivery guys riding.

I ride road bikes but when I get older and less capable I'll certainly invest in an ebike.

Cool, now do the same chart but instead of energy use time.

My ebike goes 40 km/h.