The fact that firefox updates when I open it instead of when I close it. Has to be the most annoying feature ever. : firefox

[–] DScratch@sh.itjust.works 104 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Would you prefer:

“Firefox Updater

This app is preventing shutdown”

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 10 months ago (3 children)

You shut your PC down?

[–] bob_lemon@feddit.de 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, no reason not to. Takes only a couple of seconds to boot, and everything is reset to a clean state.

[–] drawerair@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (4 children)

I started using Windows 11 in December 2023 and tried to just use sleep. My 🔋 drained fast while my 💻 was on sleep. I expected it. AMD and Intel processors generally aren't as efficient as the Apple M soc.

While it was on sleep, there were times it suddenly needed to restart.

I once had a blue screen of death too.

So now, I shut it down most of the time. Windows 11 boot-ups and shutdowns are surprisingly fast. :)

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[–] DScratch@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I got a X570 board with the really loud fan.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Instead of sleep mode, I think they meant.

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[–] TurtleTourParty@midwest.social 3 points 10 months ago

My laptop won't charge from USB-C if the battery fully dies, so I shut it down to prevent that.

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[–] finthechat@kbin.social 41 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Go to options. Scroll halfway down the page. Firefox gives you the choice to change updates from automatic to whenever you want.

https://i.imgur.com/NxpbIH4.png

[–] ArtificialLink@lemy.lol 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I prefer automatic updates.

[–] stom@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Apparently, you don't.

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[–] fidodo@lemmy.world 41 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The better approach would be to prepare the update in the background and swap out the version on the next start

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 27 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Isn't that what it does? That's how it works on macOS, and I get prompted to restart on Linux when I install updates in the background.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm on Windows and I don't recall the last time I was inconvenienced by a Firefox update. Like... I can't even remember what it actually does. OP must be running it on a potato or something.

[–] Unreliable@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think they mean when you go to open Firefox (when it updates) it immediately closes and reopens the first time? At least mine does that.

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[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Yeah and it only takes seconds on a decent PC.

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[–] smotherlove@sh.itjust.works 34 points 10 months ago

I disagree. Software not terminating immediately is grounds for uninstallation. It should update silently while it runs.

[–] NaoPb@eviltoast.org 32 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

Ubuntu has an even better approach. It updates silently while you are using it. Then your tab crashes. And when you retry it tells you to restart firefox. Truly genius *cheffs kiss

[–] ReakDuck@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago

As an Arch user. I wanted to use Arch at work too. Well, they want me to use Kubuntu (or any other prefered Ubuntu, but I like KDE so I do what every other dev uses)... except for Home Office ofc. Arch.

Still. I hate this stupid update thing. Suddenly I get 20 notifications of KDE system wanting a reboot because of updates and Firefox doing exactly this.

The worst. When I open a new tab by middleclicking a link, the tab crashes. I restart Firefox and the new Tab is gone forever. Sometimes its easy to get what I saw but not always.

[–] ook_the_librarian@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

How else would you know it was doing anything?

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[–] NegativeLookBehind@kbin.social 25 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You guys close your browser? Weird

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 9 points 10 months ago

Well yeah, about every 4 weeks when Firefox gets updated.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I'm not really hankering for that 4 seconds it takes to restart.

[–] ArtificialLink@lemy.lol 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Takes longer on older hardware

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[–] GlitzyArmrest@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It matters more when you clear history and cookies automatically at close. You lose your entire session.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Then... don't do that? You can clear history and cookies manually really easily, so if you restart your browser less often than Firefox releases updates (every 4 weeks), you're just opening yourself up to hacks by running an insecure browser.

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[+] brainw0rms@hexbear.net 16 points 10 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

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[–] ksharp@lemmy.ml 17 points 10 months ago

There is a comment below where someone posted a picture of the settings. Clearly it is insanely easy to make Firefox update in whatever way you want: automatic, manually, automatically in the background.

OP completely ignored facts and only wants their moment to stand on a soap box with their stupid and lazy complaint.

[+] Raffster@kbin.social 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

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[–] _edge@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes, it's done by the package and when you configure it to, which in practice is right now.

Actually, that's one of the things Ubuntu got right with Snap (hate is as much as you want). They install the new version in the background without interrupting your flow. The next time, you close Firefox and choose to open it again....tada... it's the new version.

[–] Fisch@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago

I think Flatpak does that too, no?

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago

Yeah, I know when I update Firefox with pamac that when I next open it it's going to need to update. It takes 3 seconds and restores my open tabs afterwards. It's really not so bad.

[–] subsonic_bubble@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Would installing Firefox on winget solve OPs problem, assuming they are on Windows?

[–] Bitrot@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 10 months ago

Not likely. Windows doesn’t like modifying open files, so the installer would probably request you close Firefox. Linux will happily change the in-use files underneath the browser, Firefox notices and prompts you to restart the browser when you open a new tab.

[–] KLISHDFSDF@lemmy.ml 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The flatpak version updates in the background, doesn't interrupt if its already running, and is immediately on the latest version the next time you run firefox.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago

Same on macOS. I haven't used Windows in years, but I'd be surprised if it's much different there.

[–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

I don't think I've ever noticed Firefox updating. The only sign I get that it updates is that when it does a special tab opens telling me about the new features.

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

This is what I hate on school computers, and it drives people away from Firefox.
You don't have admin privilege, you can't update, so don't even try.
I always disable auto-updates on those.

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[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 6 points 10 months ago

Just use a a package manager

[–] woodgen@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

Applications updating themselves... must be a Windows thing. Didn't they want to copy package management from Linux? Maybe AI can help.

[–] Mio@feddit.nu 2 points 10 months ago

I see it like thank you that i don't have to go to Mozilla website and download the installer. So much time saved, and it only takes like 5 second without manually doing anything. On Linux i saw please restart Firefox tab and clicked it. No problem. I got the update fast.

[–] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 2 points 10 months ago

I imagine for security best practices, software prefers update on open (if not update on checking a central update server regularly like yum -whatever update), but for user convenience this would be better for so many things.

[–] daqqad@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Went not just disable automatic updates? Update when you have time for it.