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    [–] uis@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    like a iphone user.

    I DON'T WANT THIS

    [–] baseless_discourse@mander.xyz 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)
    [–] uis@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Iphone is most locked-down anti-consumer pile of garbage and this is how you defend it?

    [–] baseless_discourse@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    There are different aspect to the same product. IPhone is lockeddown and aniconsumer, but it doesn't mean every aspect of it is not worth taking a lesson from.

    In order for linux to have mass apeal, it will need to be simple by default, and that is where the app store model shines, you just search and click install, everyone can figure that out.

    But that doesn't imply linux has to be lockdown and anticonsumer like iphone. If you want to compile your own kernel, you should have freedom to do so.

    [–] uis@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    and that is where the app store model shines, you just search and click install, everyone can figure that out.

    This is how linux works for last 30 years...

    [–] baseless_discourse@mander.xyz 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

    Except now you dont need to worry about outdated software even on a super stable base. You get proper permission control and a mispackaged app cannot break the entire system.

    [–] uis@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

    You get proper permission control and a mispackaged app cannot break the entire system.

    How did this come up in discussion?

    Anyway. Mispackaged app may also include broken permission control.

    [–] baseless_discourse@mander.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    How did this come up in discussion?

    Because permission control is what most people expect on phone application, which is another way linux has great default UX that is similar to what happens on phones.

    Finally, I don't think a mispackaged app is supposed to be able to break out of the application sandbox, unless some bug is exploited.

    Unless you are referring to the fact that some app are packaged with overly-permissive default permissions. But most people can change the default permission, and only grant permissions that makes sense.

    [–] uis@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Finally, I don't think a mispackaged app is supposed to be able to break out of the application sandbox, unless some bug is exploited.

    At least one of mentioned formats(AppImage) is regular executable. There is no need to break out of sandboxing when maintainer didn't put it in sandbox in the first place.

    Anyway, mainline distros have selinux or apparmor profiles. Sanboxing exists outside of three yet another "universal" package formats.

    But most people can change the default permission, and only grant permissions that makes sense.

    You mean people who package or end users?

    [–] baseless_discourse@mander.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I mean user can manage permissions to override the default, like apps on other platforms.

    [–] uis@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

    Basically how it is and was before mega-binaries.

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