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I've been considering paying for a European provider, mounting their service with rclone, and thus being transparent to most anything I host.

How do y'all backup your data?

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[–] grayman@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Local to synology. Synology to AWS with synology's backup app. It costs me pennies per day.

[–] redballooon@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Same, although aws is my plan b. For plan a I have an older Synology that is a full backup target.

[–] grayman@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

On site? I put enterprise drives in my nas. Always have and have never had a drive fail. If one does, raid is good until the replacement arrives.

[–] redballooon@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Raid is no backup. Raid helps you against drive failure.

Backup helps you if you or some script screwed up your data, or you need to go back to last months version of a file for whatever other reason.

Aws helps if your house burns down and you need to set up again from scratch.

[–] grayman@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Versioning is a feature completely separate from raid or dual nas or whatever else you do. Your example of the house burning down is exactly why I questioned the dual nas... Both nas will be toast.

So please, tell me again why you need 2 nas for versioning? Maybe you're doing some goofy hack, then ok. That's still silly. Just do proper versioning. If you're coding, just use git. Don't reinvent the wheel.

[–] redballooon@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I’m stunned that you are unfamiliar with the versioning feature of backups. In my bubble this has been best practice since Apple came along with the Time Machine, but really we tried that even before with rsync, albeit only with limited success.

This is different from git because this takes care about all files and configurations, and it does so automatically. Furthermore it also includes rules when to thin out and discard old versions, because space remains an issue.

Synologys backup tool is quite similar to Time Machine, and that’s what I am using the second NAS for. I used to have a USB hard drive for that task, but it crashed and my old Synology and a few old disks were available. That’s better because it also protects against a number of attacks that make all mounted paths unusable.

Git is not a backup tool. It’s a versioning tool, best used for text files.

[–] grayman@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Your condescension is matched only by your reading comprehension. I do not know what your requirements are. You said coding and alluded versioning, so I tossed out git. Enjoy your tech debt. I hope it serves you well and supports your ego for many years.

[–] redballooon@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago

Your condescension is matched only by your reading comprehension.

Bruh. Look into a mirror.