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[–] MadWorks@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is incorrect.

Sales of Bud Light and Budweiser dropped 24.6% and 9.2%,

This is a drop in sales of the product, not the company as a whole.

[–] Dern@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Would be interesting to know if any of their other offerings experienced an increase in sales

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@kbin.social 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You think the people protesting bud for this are smart enough to know the difference and not buy something else by them? I'd be shocked if we could pick 10 protestors and more than 2 hadn't bought another product by them.

[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I asked this question of some family members who know people who protested Bud Lite. They said everyone was switching to Miller and Coors instead of Busch, because Busch is also AB InBev.

So at least some of the people upset about the trans thing knew enough to avoid the company, not the brand.

Which shouldn’t be surprising. People are people everywhere, even if they have some misguided views it doesn’t mean they’re idiots in every aspect of their lives. It’s important to remember that, otherwise it’s very easy to dehumanize those you disagree with.

[–] thesalamander@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

A lot of people on social media are acting like this boycott didn't work. It totally did. Love it or hate it, it worked.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's a good thing these people are dehumanizing others

[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m specifically advocating against dehumanization.

You can’t fight fire with fire.

[–] PlasticExistence@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can't fight intolerance with tolerance though.

[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can’t fight intolerance with tolerance though.

I never said you should. I’m merely saying that we need to remember that the person being intolerant is a person, with the same complexities and nuances as every other person. I’m saying we ought to fight a lack of understanding by being understanding. We should fight intolerance with kindness and correction rather than combativeness.

When possible and within reason, obviously. But if our first response to intolerance is shunning and judgement, then there is no path to tolerance for that individual. If our goal is to improve society, it cannot be done with spite and punishment as the initial tools.

I wouldn’t be who I am today if people had decided not to engage with my youthful intolerance in a way that led me to think more.

[–] PlasticExistence@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well that's very high minded of you, and I applaud your energy for this. I, however, no longer have the time nor the energy to engage with those kind of people. The difference between you and they is that you engaged in good faith and were willing to learn. They engage in bad faith and are only trying to disrupt and divide.

Kick them out and move on. They can learn by standing out in the cold. My kindness is reserved for those who abide by our social contract.

[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

My original point was that saying something like this:

You think the people protesting bud for this are smart enough to know the difference and not buy something else by them? I'd be shocked if we could pick 10 protestors and more than 2 hadn't bought another product by them.

isn’t realistic or helpful. That it’s important to remember that people aren’t automatically stupid or lesser just because they are ignorant or misguided. It doesn’t take much energy to remember that even those who are intolerant are still people.

Whether you want to engage with them is a different story entirely! I know I rarely have the energy for it these days.

And if the margins on those other products are better...

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Almost certainly. They boycotted Bud Light and rushed out to buy one of the 9000 other beers AB makes.