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I mean id probably be good if we waited until hs or college to teach gender identity. Middle school or prior is too early, too confusing for kids who have the misfortune (like me) of maturing very early thanks to GMO foods. Sure teach everyone to not impregnate eachother, but stop at biologics with children.
After reading this comment section I will say that the term far-right is misused so much (thanks headline writer). I am someone who, for example, thinks abortion should be legal, yet that we shouldn’t be teaching kids that if their emotions are strong enough that they should commit to cross dressing and surgeries. Not to say the trans community is entirely con artists, only that they should wait until people are closer to adulthood and therefore more mature before they make permanent decisions.
As it sits the trans movements’ momentum relies heavily on indoctrination of kids, and its sad and alarming that these ideas are not as persuasive to older people. We should not stand behind ideologies that make less sense as we mature, especially in publicly funded school systems. We should teach the oldest ideas to the youngest people, not the other way around.
At college though, we should certainly teach the newest ideas to the now older people. Including trans theory
@wedleeneeber @grte lol, get stuffed.
Also, GMO foods have nothing to do with the onset of puberty. That's not how any of this works.
And if puberty were to set in earlier wouldn't they need to k.ow sooner rather than later?
Puberty and maturity are not the same thing. Unfortunately, yes, we have to educate people on sexual matters when their body is ahead of their brain. That I think is a problem, with a complex solution. Simply taking the same curriculum that was once meant for 7th graders and teaching it to 5th graders is what has happened in the real world, and I think it was a bad response.
Im sorry to be the bearer of bad news. I don’t think fear is a productive response. Bottom line concentrated chemicals can be dangerous. I don’t think that is in any way controversial.
Here’s that:
https://www.niehs.nih.gov/health/topics/agents/endocrine/index.cfm “Atrazine is one of the most commonly applied herbicides in the world, often used to control weeds in corn, sorghum, and sugarcane crops.”
Do you eat corn, corn syrup, or sugar? Corn chips?
And evidence that endocrine disruptors affects age of puberty:
https://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/doi/full/10.1289/ehp.1104748#r17 “We estimated an inverse association between urinary 2,5-DCP concentration and age of menarche in girls 12–16 years of age who participated in the NHANES study during 2003–2008. To our knowledge, ours is the first population-based study to report an association between exposure to the putative environmental EDC dichlorobenzene and age of menarche, an outcome that may reflect endocrine-disrupting effects. “
Fear can be good, it stops us doing things that are unnecessarily risky. I apparently hold the controversial opinion that we should treat our bodies better.
:)
@wedleeneeber I think you just really need to understand what GMO is and isn't. Based on what you posted, you don't have this knowledge.
All of our food is or is made from a GMO
Wrong discussion? This one goes off the rails a bit.
Pesticides may have effects on the timing of puberty. But genetic modification is something completely different. GM crops have their own risks (contamination of wild populations, seed monopolies etc.) but as far as I know they do not affect human health.
You did not read what I posted
Not fully, but I browsed through both, and I (mostly) agree with what they are saying. But they are talking about pesticides, not GM organisms. Again, I'm not claiming that there are no issues with GMOs. But pesticides and GMOs are completely different! You cannot show that pesticides cause X and then claim that therefore GMOs cause X.
Pesticides ≠ GMOs.
In fact, even organic foods can have pesticides. They can just use organic pesticides.
GMOs have no more "chemicals" than any other food. In fact, they often have less "chemicals", since they can often reduce pesticide use on pest-resistant GMO crops.
Most of the modifications in Genetically Modified Organisms are modifications that allow the plant to resist pesticides, no? True this would not be necessary for organic pesticides, but then also we could have food that is not derived from a GMO…
I'm not an expert, but off the top of my head, there are GMOs for drought resistance, creating natural pesticides on leaves (of potatoes), increased vitamin A (for rice to prevent childhood blindness), higher yields, seed-free varieties of fruits, and many others.