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[–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 188 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Just a reminder to my American friends that everyone was absolutely positive there was no way Trump would get elected in 2016. You sleptwalked into a near dictatorship because everyone agreed the idea that he could win was a big joke. There's very real possibility that a refusal to believe he can do it again will mean he does do it again. And if he does, I don't think it'll be a near dictatorship you have to live in.

[–] RojoSanIchiban@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The idea he could win was a big joke. Until it wasn't.

If he somehow wins in 2024, well, I'm not living in that dystopia one way or another.

[–] Smacks@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

I am honestly terrified by the number of Trump supporters I live around. Essentially everyone around me believes the election was stolen and have been fired up since the last election. Even if Trump loses, I think there will be another Jan 6th, or something along the lines of that.

These people are brainwashed super supporters and a danger to Democracy.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I completely agree but how do we stop him?

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Vote

Volunteer

Join your local well regulated militia.

[–] Piecemakers3Dprints@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (2 children)
  1. Yeah, that's not a fucked system at all

  2. Where? The soup kitchen you're about to eat from once his people crumble this nation?

  3. You're gawdamned right. Best time to start was yesterday.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

1: Reform must always be attempted until revolution is the only choice left

2: Yes, and political campaigns for stomachable Dems

3: Just in case...

  1. And, just humor me: when, exactly, is that? Are we waiting for a sign? Did we already miss it? Will we ever decide on which one is THE sign, anyhow?

  2. Isn't that a Blue unicorn, though?

  3. That's ardently hopeful of you

[–] HollandJim@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's not a fucked system at all

It’s really not. It gets fucked all the time because people expect to coast and not participate with anything more than a tweet. Used to drive me crazy the folks who’d say “by not voting, I’m voting against the system” or some other shit. Jesus… not voting just removes barriers to those crazies like Trump. You gotta be in it to win it.

I hear your point, though the Electoral College is the glaring flaw in that logic, in regards to presidential elections.

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

To quote his majesty from BG3

"I'd rather die"

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't die for your country, make them die for their dictator.

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I'm not gonna die for my country. Just die.

[–] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago
[–] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don't know how much of it was really a joke. A lot of people, especially in the Midwest, seemed to really just not like Clinton... they saw both of them as political devils and people were pissed the DNC got in Bernie's way. It was kind of the perfect storm in swing states.

Biden doesn't have the "root of all evil, manipulative woman" issue Clinton had, but he really does need to show people that he's fit and ready for another 4 years and that he's done great things for this country ... because those are the two points the the right are really trying to undermine him with.

Hopefully Trump just doesn't even get the Republican nomination and someone else is able to shine through in the Republican debate. Trump is basically like "Jeb!" was in 2016, everyone's just assuming he's got it by default, but a lot can change, especially in the later debates and as Trump's legal troubles get worse.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I recently read Nikki Haley was climbing in some polls (or was that Ron DeSanity falling)